<p>^^^It wouldn’t surprise me at all. They probably spelled it out as The University of California-Los Angeles and those execs just assumed it was Cal, the flagship school. Let’s face it, LA is much better known that Berkeley.</p>
<p>^ So in their mind, the one in LA is the flagship one and the one at Berkeley is not. :D</p>
<p>Do you really confuse west coast with east coast?</p>
<p>UCB, not knowing the exact location is probably not that big of a deal. I think many people don’t know Princeton is in NJ and Yale is in CT. ;)</p>
<p>^ Right, but surveys ask “where” their companies recruit…they should have some sense of location.</p>
<p>^^^That’s why I laughed when I saw East Lansing beating out Ann Arbor as an area for this type of recruiting. Seriously, it doesn’t make any sense. Look, that Penn is rated so low tells me all I need to know about the accuracy of this survey. I’m sure some of them were looking for Wharton and just gave up. lol</p>
<p>Lol at people saying UCLA did better than Berkeley because people confused it with Berkeley. </p>
<p>Academic rankings are not all businesses are concerned with. The UCLA student body, in my experience, is relatively very well rounded and social which are things that businesses like to see. Being in LA probably doesn’t hurt either.</p>
<p>Just my incredibly biased 2 cents.</p>
<p>Yeah, they must have confused UCLA with Berkeley. However, they managed to not confuse it with any of the other UC schools :rolleyes:</p>
<p>From what i read in the article, a lot of them are also really interested in extra curricular activities (for which i would imagine students at UCLA would be significantly more balanced than students at Berkeley.)</p>
<p>^ UCSF has a great MBA program… :rolleyes:</p>
<p>sighing… (To both MSU & TOSU CCers), Please only PM me if TOSU moves into the Top-50!! lol I am now very busy helping another cousin of mine who’s coming to usa to study Clinical Psychology on top of my own specialty board in Geriatric Medicine. So, unless you are certain of the date of apocalypse, please allow me to concentrate on my works. Thank You! :)</p>
<p>In short, I do not know the exact detail of this ‘possible’ MSU messed up with U of M on this particular survey as alluded by some. But, I will just share a few quick points with you guys since ‘goldenboy8784’ had already provided some good evidences and explanations. </p>
<p>Besides the #1 ranked ‘Supply Chain & Management’ in the nation and Top-10 Accounting program, MSU Broad School of Business has had some highlights way before Ross’s recent $100 million donation to Michigan. Know that $20 million donation decades ago was enough to initiate re-establishing and construction of a Business School such as TOSU’s Fisher (also $20 million in Fisher’s name), let alone focusing solely for its MBA program!!</p>
<p>News from two decades ago:</p>
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<p>"An executive in the home-building industry who was reared in the Midwest and has been alarmed by the region’s waning manufacturing competitiveness today donated the largest gift ever by an individual to the business school of a public university.</p>
<p>Eli Broad, 58 years old, the chairman of the Kaufman & Broad Home Corporation, is giving $20 million to the Michigan State University business school to strengthen its M.B.A. program and provide students skills to help American manufacturers compete more effectively."</p>
<p>“If we wanted to put Michigan State on the map this felt like the right amount,” Mr. Broad said. “This is what it would cost if we wanted to be in the top 10.” Business College Renamed"</p>
<p>[COMPANY</a> NEWS - COMPANY NEWS - Michigan Business School Gets $20 Million Donation - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/26/business/company-news-michigan-business-school-gets-20-million-donation.html]COMPANY”>COMPANY NEWS; Michigan Business School Gets $20 Million Donation - The New York Times)</p>
<p>Besides being one of the largest international students enrollment school in the country, and with over half-a-million alumni across the world, some recognitions here in America as of late:</p>
<p>*MSU’s Eli Broad College of Business was ranked 6th among public schools and 19th overall by Forbes in its 2011 biennial ranking of full-time MBA programs. The rankings are based on return on investment, calculated as compensation five years after graduation minus tuition and salary not earned while in school.</p>
<p>*According to ‘The Best U.S. B-Schools of 2010,’ the Broad College ranks 20th overall and 7th among public universities. The college placed 13th in the Graduate Poll, 32nd in the Corporate Poll, and 39th in Intellectual Capital—the three elements that made up the ranking.</p>
<p>*MSU’s Eli Broad College of Business vaulted into the Top-20 of American business schools in the most recent biennial rankings by Bloomberg Businessweek. </p>
<p>[Rankings</a> and Recognitions | Michigan State University](<a href=“http://www.msu.edu/about/rankings-and-recognitions/index.html]Rankings”>http://www.msu.edu/about/rankings-and-recognitions/index.html)</p>
<p>Last but not least, the current CEO of National Electroics - Taiwan (affiliation with Panasonic Corporation in Japan) chose MSU over Michigan (Michigan courted him according to his autobiography), completed his MBA degree in East Lansing back in 2001 as did his father AND grandfather. Go State!! lol</p>
<p>peace~ :p</p>
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<p>This was a study by a French consulting firm called Emerging that was reported by the New York Times. Here’s the link to the original story: <a href=“Gauging the Value of Your M.B.A. - The New York Times”>Gauging the Value of Your M.B.A. - The New York Times;
<p>Emerging consulted throughout the survey with a German firm; Trendence. This was in an effort to eliminate bias opinion. If you look at the data used to rank the schools, it was not simply the school itself that earned the position, but rather the versatility of students and faculty associated with the school. That means that the survey asked corporation’s opinions of these people. Assuming that an employer would favor versatility in potential employees, then this survey more or less accurately ranks the character of the people from that school. All it really says is that employers look at more than transcripts such as portfolio work, prior internships/co-ops, and international relevancy and influence. This ranking speaks mostly to the fact that the school itself works to expand its global relevancy and teach its students valuable professional qualities. I think this list is a valuable depiction of the value of graduates matriculating through these institutions.</p>
<p>Also, MSU’s School of Hospitality Business is among the best in the nation!!
[History</a> of The School of Hospitality Business - YouTube](<a href=“History of The School of Hospitality Business - YouTube”>History of The School of Hospitality Business - YouTube)</p>
<p>In short, Please only PM me if TOSU (OR MSU) moves into the Top-50!! </p>
<p>P.S. Thank for those who bid me farewell the other day! God Bless!! :)</p>
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Don’t forget to count it as part of UC-Berkeley!</p>
<p>"Hundreds of chief executives and chairmen, chosen from leading companies in 10 countries, were asked to select the top universities from which they recruited. "</p>
<p>You know, I think most CEO’s have better things to do with their time than to actively monitor / manage where their human resources people are doing recruiting. I think it’s quite possible that what they gave are their impressions of where they recruit … But if you’re REALLY running a big company, you aren’t dealing with this level of detail. Maybe the marketing people also like to recruit from school X and the engineers from school Y, and you just don’t know about it. This feels like a classic ask-the-wrong-person question. A lot of recruiting is also driven by where department managers / heads want to visit and where they can scare up interest in having their people travel.</p>
<p>^The big names are still at the top though.</p>
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<p>This is probably more acurate. </p>
<p>Presumably, the CEOs weren’t always CEOs though. Since they probably had to work their way up, and presumably mingled with many different people while they were doing so, and hence, got information about their alma maters (almae matres.) The CEOs’ opinions might also be influenced by the undergrad schools of other executives. </p>
<p>It also isn’t implausable that the CEOs simply contacted their own marketing/HR departments and asked them where they recruited, which then informed their decisions; or had their own marketing/research department fill out the surveys. (or, even more likely, that they probably have statistics on this type of stuff that they can just lookup.)</p>
<p>Corporations are incompetent. Grads good enough to get recruited quickly quit because they can’t deal with the horrific culture put in place by previous generations. Except for investing the money isn’t worth it and there’s more money and happiness in striking out on their own. It is the mediocre minds that stay to rise up the ladder, in part because their mediocrity isn’t intimidating to superiors.</p>