<p>If I have movies that I downloaded at home or got from a friend on my external hard drive, and I bring said hard drive to school can I get in trouble for watching those movies? I mean, if I don't use the internet in acquiring those movies, it shouldn't be a university issue, right?</p>
<p>What about games and movies? Many people still pirate them. Do people usually get caught for doing that at universities?</p>
<p>Rex212: No, you definitely can't get in trouble. Some people are way too paranoid.</p>
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i'm just really morally opposed to porn--not because i'm a fundamentalist christian (haha probably the farthest from it) but because i think it ultimately hurts women. it degrades and objectifies them and distorts men's perceptions of them.</p>
<p>no, i don't really think it should be illegal. i just think men should realize how harmful pornography is and stop using it (and thus destroy the industry).
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<p>Yes. Porn is so bad for women! They get to make a lot of money for having sex. How horrible! Although the smarter ones are just dancing for their money. </p>
<p>They have torrents blocked at my university, as well as p2p's, so it's pretty much impossible to download music with albumbase.org being shutdown. If anyone knows of any albumbase clones, they should link it up : D</p>
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i'm just really morally opposed to porn--not because i'm a fundamentalist christian (haha probably the farthest from it) but because i think it ultimately hurts women. it degrades and objectifies them and distorts men's perceptions of them.</p>
<p>no, i don't really think it should be illegal. i just think men should realize how harmful pornography is and stop using it (and thus destroy the industry).
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I just really support porn -- not because I'm an asexual feminist (which I am) -- but because pornography can decrease the amount of sex people are having. I strongly oppose any explicit porn that fails to encourage masturbation. According to masturbators, sex is an opportunity cost of masturbation. Various sexual persons I know say that their sex drives decrease dramatically after orgasm, so I'd like to help them get over their hormonal stupidity.</p>
<p>NB: I know the conditions are bad, but there is a bright new side. According to mogul Jenna Jameson (sp?) in an interview by Tyra Banks (sp?), she takes care of "her girls" (whom she contracts exclusively for STD and market control) and ensures that they do not have to go through the same conditions she once endured.</p>
<p>If you want only ethically produced porn, check out her company.
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<p>At Stanford, which has a history of student targets, you'll get a warning if a torrent is detected.</p>
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Yes. Porn is so bad for women! They get to make a lot of money for having sex. How horrible!
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if you believe that the majority of these women actually enjoy what they're doing, you're pretty much delusional. people will do practically anything for money, and pornography is certainly lucrative. many women choose sex industries over a minimum-wage job, and i don't blame them. but these women also contract STDs and are physically ravaged daily by whomever dreamt up the "DP" or any other painful and degrading sexual practices staged by pornographers. if you'd like to counter that "a lot of porn is girl-on-girl and they're cuming so hard and they're def enjoying it!!!!!1!" i'd like to remind you that what you're seeing is a show. it's a performance geared toward a market--which consists overwhelmingly of white men.</p>
<p>the porn industry is constantly pushing the limits further and further with new footage portraying "a**-to-mouth" or gagging during oral sex or terrible scenarios where women are lured onto a bus or are filmed being coerced into sex acts at a music video audition. and frequently, the video ends with the man ejaculating onto the woman's face or body, an act that is no more sexually pleasurable for the man but simply exemplifies the idealization of degradation.</p>
<p>you might tell me to "just don't watch" porn if i'm so against it. but these days, when women like jenna jameson are idolized by many women, and men are programmed to think that their real-life women partners should behave like porn stars in bed, porn culture has totally seeped into our everyday lives.</p>
<p>yes, i'm a feminist, and i'm morally against pornography, but i definitely don't hate men (i've been dating my boyfriend, who actually uses porn himself & won't call himself a feminist in front of his friends, for over a year)--feminists believe in the humanity of men & their ability to turn away from the objectification of women in favor of treating them as equals.</p>
<p>consider going to Stop</a> Porn Culture before you get off this evening
spiel's over ;)</p>
<p>All of the sexual acts you described seem to be pretty normal for non-evangelicals and non-feminists, except double penetration, although not the two different kinds of penetration. </p>
<p>I am for freedom. Prostitution, porn, stripping, etc. is all fine. These woman have the choice to do it or not. If they want to do it, fine, do it, make some nice money. If not, don't do it.</p>
<p>Also, I don't quite get the "white men" part. Is there something about other races that make them like sex less?</p>
<p>@ leah377 (#26)
While I share many of your concerns, I would like to point out the social reprehensibility of (what I presume is) the majority of porn should not detract from the shining minority.</p>
<p>Rather, a culture of equality would better be fought in language. It is sad that your boyfriend would not call himself a feminist in front of his friends. This is the sort of thing that should be changed - since porn has a purpose, let it work. Just change the way it operates. In practice, instead of opting for something hardcore like My Sexual Harassment (a Japanese gay comic marketed mainly for female persons) I would simply endulge in playful romance in Junjou Romantica. Similarly, I would encourage sexual persons to use ethically produced materials like the work of Jameson's company (Are you implying that it is wrong to idolise her? I might idolize her for her grace in finding a way to save people caught in the trap of porn . Do you know what she does? Those female workers get training to escape the horrors!! WHY would it wrong to idolize astute and caring businesspersons who rose out of nastiness and provide ladders for others?) or to simply draw something themselves (by imagination) or perhaps see some Yaoi/Yuri/CG where human potential is not wasted so much in exercising primitive instincts, but rather is executed in art.</p>
<p>Do not bomb the city just because Hitler rules it.
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[For the sake of clarity, I should note that I indeed have an agenda. I have been trying for a while to get my government to remove "Sex" from ID cards. Despite being male, I am possibly the most militant feminist I have ever met - and I bring it up regularly. I avoid using sexed words when to a reasonable degree (mostly saying "person" instead of "man", "woman", "boy", "girl" etc). I discourage the sex act as a horrible drug. I discourage the chains of gender identity that hurt everyone. And I discourage nonbenign sexuality as well as social/courtly sexual advent, because the latter I see as huge timewaster and threat to the economy. But I encourage Porn as the lesser of evils.]*</p>
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Also, I don't quite get the "white men" part. Is there something about other races that make them like sex less?
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lots of porn is geared toward racial fetishes (asian girls, "big booty hoes" or other BS like that) or even purely racist scenarios--like white women being f*<strong><em>d by "huge black c</em></strong>s." historically, black men are stereotypically portrayed as sexual predators, and getting off by watching women "at their mercy" is one of the easiest ways to degrade women.</p>
<p>i think it's wrong to idolize jenna jameson because her success encourages other women to strive to be like her (she's an ideal woman in many men's eyes) and thus embrace the porn industry.</p>
<p>also, i definitely enjoy sex as much as the next person, and i'm no prude. i just think the sex industries hurt EVERYONE & should be stopped.</p>
<p>27: These woman have the choice to do it or not.
Sometimes African (predominantly female) persons are tricked into going to Scandinavia where they become slaves. This clogs the local law enforcement. Similar events have been reported in Mexico and Eastern Europe.</p>
<p>29: i just think the sex industries hurt EVERYONE & should be stopped.
I wonder which ideas (those stated by yourself as opposed to those in my posts) would be more readily accepted into public policy.</p>
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if you believe that the majority of these women actually enjoy what they're doing, you're pretty much delusional. people will do practically anything for money, and pornography is certainly lucrative. many women choose sex industries over a minimum-wage job, and i don't blame them. but these women also contract STDs and are physically ravaged daily by whomever dreamt up the "DP" or any other painful and degrading sexual practices staged by pornographers. if you'd like to counter that "a lot of porn is girl-on-girl and they're cuming so hard and they're def enjoying it!!!!!1!" i'd like to remind you that what you're seeing is a show. it's a performance geared toward a market--which consists overwhelmingly of white men.</p>
<p>the porn industry is constantly pushing the limits further and further with new footage portraying "a**-to-mouth" or gagging during oral sex or terrible scenarios where women are lured onto a bus or are filmed being coerced into sex acts at a music video audition. and frequently, the video ends with the man ejaculating onto the woman's face or body, an act that is no more sexually pleasurable for the man but simply exemplifies the idealization of degradation.</p>
<p>you might tell me to "just don't watch" porn if i'm so against it. but these days, when women like jenna jameson are idolized by many women, and men are programmed to think that their real-life women partners should behave like porn stars in bed, porn culture has totally seeped into our everyday lives.</p>
<p>yes, i'm a feminist, and i'm morally against pornography, but i definitely don't hate men (i've been dating my boyfriend, who actually uses porn himself & won't call himself a feminist in front of his friends, for over a year)--feminists believe in the humanity of men & their ability to turn away from the objectification of women in favor of treating them as equals.</p>
<p>consider going to Stop Porn Culture before you get off this evening
spiel's over
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<p>Leah, i think you make a valid point that men can sometimes objectify women and the porn industry can be a nasty thing sometimes. However, I don't think you can speak for the entire population of women in the porn industries nor blame porn as the cause for objectifying women. Personally I would be angrier at the media's influence on perception of men and women and what is considered "the norm".</p>
<p>I also don't think you can deny that there ARE differences between men and women. Whether you think it is degradation or not is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Either way, the industry isn't going to be shut down anytime soon.</p>
<p>Regarding Limewire and the such, I know a guy who transferred into my school, and at his old school, he downloaded music even though it was against the rules. A day or two later, he received an e-mail from the school, listing the songs he had downloaded and telling him to immediately remove them and not download any more music. That scared him enough so he didn't try again. This was at a big state U, by the way.</p>
<p>In contrast, my school doesn't give a crap what we do on the internet.</p>