<p>You guys are all delussional, you're all just like every other kid at my school with no interests that wants to "study business" becuase its "so interesting", it doesn't seem interesting at all until you're up on top. Most analysts get laid off after two years, what are the odds of: getting into a prestigious business school, and getting into a BB firm, getting offered a higher position after two years? PLus, I read somewhere on these boards that lots of ugly, socially awkward kids dont get this far, that is beyond every socially awkard Asian, Indian, White kid with a 2400, 4.0, Mathletes control, if you weren't socially awkward you'd probably play a sport or have a more interesting hobby that "getting into a top school".</p>
<p>^I play varsity football and I am very social, please do not generalize people on an internet forum because we come from all different backgrounds and interests. I am also in math team and academic decatholon.</p>
<p>I'm saying this from personal expierience, I said "at my school". (typically "prospective" Ibankers (at my school) are either not too bright, or somewhat on the socially awkward side. Of course there are people that don't fit that generalization, those are the people that succeed, they are the jacks of all trades.</p>
<p>You don't think its a little bit strange for kids that aren't even in college to be planning where they "are going to work" in 4 years?</p>
<p>^Not really, business is all about knowing your exits and well after I leave college, I want to have an idea of where I would like to exit too and the reason why I started this thread was to see what other people were thinking also. Read Ugly Americans by Ben Mezrich they talk a lot about exit points. Is this strange? No. Is this smart? Yes. Will everyones plans go through? No because if we won all the time we wouldn't understand the importance of accomplishments.</p>
<p>"Social"? Says the kid who asks about relationship advice with his Korean girlfriend on the "High School Life" forum. hahaha, oh lord. Who posts on that forum in general?</p>
<p>I did, and I don't know how that makes me socially awkward since I attend a predominantly non-asian school and that was my first time with an asian girl and since her parents were all weird I see no problem in asking whether other people went through the same thing I did and whether they had any tips. I ended up dumping her in two weeks because it just wasn't working out. Also, you spent teh time to through 700 or so posts to find something you would consider "asocial"? Also, this thread is on investment banking as a career aspect not as a social one.</p>
<p>Here I'll post mine:</p>
<p>GS hopeful or any BB in general.
If not there are several well-paying firms in new york that I like a lot, such as Standard & Poor. My friend recieved a job offer from there straight out of college for 80K ish. Which is amazing considering the hours aren't nearly as bad as IB.</p>
<p>Also Consulting if I work for:
Mckinsey
Bain
BCG
Monitor</p>
<p>i'm attending a prestigious business school and i'm not socially awkward. i find myself quite sexy also. i guess i'm not as smart as the kids with perfect SAT scores and what not though. i need to brush up on case questions and lightning quick math calculations for interviews. other than that, i think i'm set.</p>
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i'm attending a prestigious business school and i'm not socially awkward. i find myself quite sexy also. i guess i'm not as smart as the kids with perfect SAT scores and what not though. i need to brush up on case questions and lightning quick math calculations for interviews. other than that, i think i'm set.
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Assumption is the mother of all ****ups. Do not assume you are set.</p>
<p>i laughed for some odd reason when reading the above post</p>
<p>that's because it's a quote from a Steven Segal movie - Underseige Dark Territory.</p>
<p>One of the bad guys says 'assumption is the mother of all f......."</p>
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Lazard only has asset management and IBD lol...no trading.
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<p>They had a hedge fund??!!?!?!?!?!?!</p>
<p>Asset management includes hedge funds yes. Nearly every one of the top ibanks have internal hedge funds.</p>
<p>As for the original question: I would not be an ibanker.</p>
<p>futurenyustudent makes me LOL IRL.</p>
<p>GOLDMAN SACHS is number one choice but would work for any other bulge
and probably Lazard Freres as boutique. </p>
<p>If any of you would like a little insight of what its like going to school to become an investment banker read the book "Running of the Bulls". Even though its about Wharton the situation is very similar to the other top business programs in the US. Good easy read.. Check it out.</p>
<p>You know, the money that makes Ibanking so lucrative is all in YOUR BONUS. The bonus depends on:</p>
<p>A. How the firm as a whole did (good years like last year top firms paid 75-85k for top bucket analyst or in bad years only 40-50k) So it all depends.</p>
<p>B. How well you did compared to the rest of the other analyst firm wide. If you are in the top 2 buckets say for last year (65-85k) for the amount hours you do, its worth it. Now being on the lower tier and working 80-100hrs for a low bonus is pretty ****ty and an indication for you to leave. Don't think that just being an Ibanker will guarantee you the top money if you work the hours, its that and the quality of your work.</p>
<p>The quality of you pitchbooks? LOL.</p>
<p>Investment banking: Yes</p>
<p>Top Choices:
Bear Stearns
Lehman Brothers
UBS
Goldman
ML
MS
The rest</p>
<p>Investment Banker - Probably.</p>
<p>I am more lenient towards becoming a management consultant. The companies I am interested are the following:</p>
<p>IBM consulting
McKinsey
Golman Sachs
Merrill Lynche
JP Morgan
Morgan Stanley
Boston Consulting</p>
<p>Who knows...I'll see what happens. :)</p>