<p>"It's just RocketDA glorifying Mudd. Nothing unusual."</p>
<p>at least i only talk about things that i'm involved in and have a direct, first-hand, experienced opinion about. </p>
<p>the vibe i get from you and yours alike is that you go to school somewhere and talk about schools that you have never been to... or for that matter lived at or worked for. you get your information through 2nd or 3rd-hand sources. </p>
<p>i'll submit my take on my school and where i work. you can choose to read it or not.</p>
<p>I looked up the average for my school, and all i could find was an overall 3.06. Engineering is about 40% or so, and I know all of us have a lower average than that. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 2.7/2.8. I hear of lots of kids working really hard and still gettting Cs or worse.</p>
<p>if one has a higher GPA than the average GPA at an engineering school, would that increase their chance of transferring successfully? im at VT and probably will have a 3.2-3.4, and REALLY want to go to UVA, and their average is a 3.0</p>
<p>Hey, I am the OP and I go to Purdue, which is a difficult school for engineers. My GPA is 2.84(according to gradeinflation.com, the average GPA here is 2.83), but I have heard many companies would rather take a person with a 3.5 from lowly ranked engineering school than me. I have also talked to companies at career fair, and most of them ask for GPA's before even looking at resume. I think the GPA is very important for your first job and internships/co-ops. Let this be a warning to future engineering students.</p>
<p>A 2.65 is actually a B- (at HMC at least). However, I'd still ask the dean if Engineering is really that low. If it is, then I as a physicist will just feel worse about my own grades.</p>
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wait...how many classes have you taken for grades? none... (how many
classes have you passed? none...)
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<p>Aren't you only a sophomore? You act as if you've taken a boatload of engineering classes, but isn't it true that you've actually completed 1 (or 0)? And that you're taking only one more right now? </p>
<p>And I'm passing all my classes, thanks.</p>
<p>Spreading disinformation about Mudd being harder than it actually is will only deter students from coming here.</p>
<p>"Aren't you only a sophomore? You act as if you've taken a boatload of engineering classes, but isn't it true that you've actually completed 1 (or 0)? And that you're taking only one more right now? "</p>
<p>E4, intro to eng design
E8, design realization (tools)
E59, baby stems
E191, advanced topics in engineering</p>
<p>not a boat load, but enough to get a feel for how grading works.</p>
<p>The median GPA of all HMC graduates for the class of 2002 was 3.26. For engineering majors, it was actually higher at 3.28. GPA in only engineering courses was even higher at 3.37.</p>
<p>The mean might be slightly lower than the median, but it certainly is not 2.65.</p>
<p>that is interesting data. i will not try to argue it. </p>
<p>so am i to conclude that classes will get relatively easier as time goes on? (because there is no way in hell that sophomore year the median/mean is that high)</p>
<p>seniors told me that gpas are really low frosh/soph years (with core) but with more specialized classes, gpas will increase... i just didn't think it increases THAT much.</p>
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seniors told me that gpas are really low frosh/soph years (with core) but with more specialized classes, gpas will increase... i just didn't think it increases THAT much.
<p>What is this, some kind of ego contest? To see "who goes the most hardcore school"? Because that's what it looks like.</p>
<p>Boomer, GPA is only one part of the equation. You can raise it as you get into higher level classes. You can also focus on other credentials such as research or work experience. You will find that GPA means very little beyond your first job outside of school.</p>
<p>"GPA really only means something if you want to go to grad school (of any sort) and for that first job."</p>
<p>yeah. there's the problem. gpa would not matter unless you want to go to grad school OR be employed by specific employers. some require a gpa of at least 3.0...</p>
<p>"frankly, i think a 2.65 from Cornell or VT or UT is better than a 3.5 from a small, lesser school"</p>
<p>Shoebox,
I went to a smaller, lesser school for undergrad and then went to VT for grad school. I can tell you that your assumption that better schools grade harder is not necessarily true.</p>
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Shoebox,
I went to a smaller, lesser school for undergrad and then went to VT for grad school. I can tell you that your assumption that better schools grade harder is not necessarily true.
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<p>Not necessarily true but it is pretty safe to say the caliber of students at a nationally ranked engineering school, on average, will be higher than an unranked one. Therefore if the course is curved, the school you go to will affect the grades you get.</p>
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Not necessarily true but it is pretty safe to say the caliber of students at a nationally ranked engineering school, on average, will be higher than an unranked one. Therefore if the course is curved, the school you go to will affect the grades you get.
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Of entering freshman, yes. Of seniors, less so. Low ranked programs with high attrition rates can likely put out similar graduates - as compared with high ranked programs with low attrition rates.</p>
<p>its hard to base attrition rates because bigger schools will try to weed out more freshmen...i look around VT and i know a lot of kids going "what am i doing here" and planning to drop Eng, or most likely at the end of the year...
its like saying a person from Harvard is not higher caliber than students from a smaller state school...the top 20 Eng schools are going to produce "Ivy" engineering grads</p>