Is a person screwed if they don't attend HYP for undergrad? (please read)

<p>Full ride to JHU. There are many who would kill for that.</p>

<p>Yes the grass is always greener on the other side. The saddest word in the English language is “IF”. If I had not applied ED to JHU, if I had… You can spend the rest of your life lamenting or you can go happily to JHU knowing that you will graduate from a top institution (especially in IR) with little or no debt.</p>

<p>Just ignore the folks who dis everything that’s not an Ivy. Trust me. JHU is a great school. And, the farther away from high school you get, the less of this sort of talk you will hear.</p>

<p>howdy - You’re doing great. Full ride at a top-notch school, it doesn’t get any better. Absolutely, you’ve made great choices.</p>

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You may as well ‘shoot for’ a 180 and see where you end up when you do your best.</p>

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I think you nailed it - ‘ignorant’ is the key word here. Usually the only people who would say this are people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Have any of these people who have said this to you actually graduated from an Ivy, or a well respected Uni like Hopkins?</p>

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<p>Yowch. Not only is the teacher dead wrong, she/he’s also tactless. </p>

<p>Since it hurt, I’m guessing that this is a teacher that you respect. Ignore the rest of this if I’m wrong and you think that the teacher is a foul-smelling warthog with the intellect of cottage cheese, but you’ll do your ego and future students at your high school a world of good if you can tell the teacher why you are over the moon about JHU. </p>

<p>At any rate: you’ve chosen wisely. You’ll be attending a school that will allow you great opportunities. You’ll be near DC (not an Ivy strength :slight_smile: ), finishing without debt, with the freedom to choose freely what you want to do next.</p>

<p>"Or is the whole Ivy craze exaggerated? " - Absolutely ! </p>

<p>Ah, you have a great deal at a great school. Appreciate that. If you remain interested in ivy, then make that a goal for grad school / law school. </p>

<p>There are many families on these threads making finance / fit trade-offs… and most would be delighted to be able to attend a fine school like JH.</p>

<p>Even if the top people are from HYP, they still need competent assistants from those other schools.</p>

<p>Just poking around people’s backgrounds a little more . . . </p>

<p>5 of 9 current Supreme Court Justices graduated from Harvard Law
3 of 9 graduated from Yale Law
1 of 9 graduated from Columbia Law</p>

<p>For their undergrad years, we have 3 Princeton, 2 Stanford, 1 Harvard, 1 Georgetown, 1 Cornell, and 1 Conception Seminary College.</p>

<p>For some jobs, a pedigree definitely seems to help! But I suspect that in the cases above, the pedigree merely corresponds with an individual of unmatched ability and talent and that it’s the latter characteristics that really determined success.</p>

<p>[List</a> of Johns Hopkins University people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Johns_Hopkins_University_people]List”>List of Johns Hopkins University people - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>Doesn’t seem to have held these folks back much…</p>

<p>Let’s be real, it won’t be an easy road to US President as JHU grad.</p>

<p>Does that mean you can’t become one? No.</p>

<p>Is probability of one’s becoming US President from non HYP small? True.</p>

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<p>The probability of becoming the President is incredibly small, no matter where you go to school! Fewer than 25% of them had undergraduate degrees from HYP.
[List</a> of Presidents of the United States by education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_education]List”>List of presidents of the United States by education - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>This thread just cracks me up.</p>

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<p>Because, I suspect, the people you have heard from are mostly highschool kids or teachers who have never actually lived in the bigger world. Their reference point is TV, movies, university brochures and CC.</p>

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<p>A lot of them are HS seniors or college freshmen, but some of them are misguided adults who are blinded by prestige. Note POIH’s comment:</p>

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<p>How many people do you think go to HYP every year? seriously.</p>

<p>Interesting subject. Here are my two cents: I think that going to HYP may give you an advantage. However, it does not guarantee how successful you will be. That depends on the individual. As a consultant for corporations I have had the opportunity to interact with high level executives. These are successful people, high in the corporate ladder, making outrageous amounts of money. The vast majority have not attended HYP. But they were go-getters from the start and almost always among the top of their classes.</p>

<p>God, some of you people are so weird about HYP graduates! Guess what? They aren’t super humans. They are PEOPLE. They get up, brush their teeth and put their pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else. Some have great people skills and some aren’t very nice people at all. Some are hard working and others take the easy way out. Just like any other collection of human beings on the planet. Not every word that comes from their mouths drips with brilliance.</p>

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<p>ROFL. That’s got to be one of the most inane CC comments ever. Yes, the royals do need people to carry their water for them.</p>

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<p>Geithner got his masters there. He went to Dartmouth for undergrad.</p>

<p>But I hope you’ve gotten the picture from the previous posters that you do NOT need to to go to HYP to be successful. There is an endless number of exceptions to that idea. Besides, Johns Hopkins itself is among the elite universities in the country. You’re already at a top tier school. Stop worrying that it’s not even higher.</p>

<p>I’m going to kick the hornets nest for a second here…
What everyone is saying is true about individual efforts and accomplishments trumping school name. But there are some intangible benefits to attending HYP, namely connections both with current students and alumni. I know this will annoy the likes of some, but the undergrad years are a time when strong bonds are formed and if those strong bonds are formed with sons and daughters of senators, statesmen and the like, well it certainly doesn’t hurt does it? And there are all sorts of those types in many top schools but I suspect there is a higher concentration in the ivies. I’m not saying that success is impossible to achieve without connections, I’m just saying it’s possibly easier.</p>

<p>I’m also not saying it’s fair, it’s just the way it is.</p>

<p>I’m curious howdypal as to what led you to restrict your choices so drastically by applying ED? Did you fall in love with the school and couldn’t picture yourself anywhere else? If so then that’s the perfect school for you- above else you must love where you go.</p>