<p>Okay, so I know you should major in something your interested in but this has been bringing me down for awhile. Whenever I say I want to go into business, a lot of people are telling me that an undergrad business degree is worthless and usless. i dont kmow why, but this has been bugging me a lot. I know i shouldnt care and do what im interested in, but i guess Im starting to feel really down after hearing so many of my peers tell me this sentiment. Would you guys say this is true or false? And would you say economics, international relations, or theoretical mathematics are better options?
BTW i want to be accounting and finance double major with a minor in marketing, if that's relevant to the discussion. I may possibly want to do industrial engineering instead of accounting.</p>
<p>The vast majority of business job postings require 4-year or higher degrees. Two-year degrees you will take away a good deal of knowledge from the classes you take, but won’t really open up many prospects.</p>
<p>Engineering and Accounting are worlds apart. What kind of job do you want to get?</p>
<p>I don’t know why they are telling you it is worthless either. If you want to go into accounting then obviously, you pretty much need an accounting degree. I like economics and math, but again, it depends what you want to do with your life. IE is good if that is what you want. So are the others, IR less so than all the other mentioned.</p>
<p>Actually I want to get into management or strategic consulting. Although, if I got a really good job in marketing, which i doubt, i would take it.
I’m just worried about job prospects and I really like math and I did an accounting internship this summer and didn’t completly hate it, so I thought accounting would be a good major. But i’m also intersted in finance which is why I want to double major
I’ve been thinking about IE because it seems like a really interesting field and engineering is a great field.</p>
<p>And I totally plan on getting a 4 year degree (I was actually planning on doing my MBA)</p>
<p>The question that i meant to pose was if undergrad business degrees are truly worthless compared to other fields or degrees in International Relations, economics, and theoretical mathematics</p>
<p>They are only useful in a sense that they look pretty hanging on a wall - just as all seven of mine are right now.</p>
<p>Unless you can get into a Top 20 school, a good business degree (Top 50 or so) will have real value in the job market today. Best majors are accting and finance. Gen mgt and marketing not so much except at Top 10 biz school.</p>
<p>For the direction you are planning, all except IR make sense. All the big accounting firms have consulting so you know accounting and finance will be in the mix. And when you get into strategy, analysis is useful so that is where economics and statistics makes sense.</p>
<p>Here is a list of the major consulting firms. Perhaps you might want to look at their career sites and see what they look for.</p>
<p>[List</a> of top consulting firms and their websites](<a href=“http://www.stormscape.com/inspiration/website-lists/consulting-firms/]List”>http://www.stormscape.com/inspiration/website-lists/consulting-firms/)</p>
<p>Thanks Geo! The percentage of females and males is disappointing, not gonna lie. Regardless, thanks for the data. 
Even tho I’m super interested in marketing, I want to do it as a minor because its not a great field at all. Finance and Accounting are the majors ill probably stick to
Is economics a better degree than a finance or accounting degree?</p>
<p>Depends on what you want to do. One isn’t necessarily better than the other in a general scope, but if you want to become an Accountant it would be better to major in Accounting rather than Economics. If you want to become an Economist then you should major in Economics. Different degrees open different doors. There will be some overlap, of course. For example, a lot of firms hire Accounting, Finance, and Economics majors to be Financial Analysts.</p>
<p>My friend got a degree in Economics and five years later became a US Diplomat. Probably couldn’t do that with a degree in Accounting or Finance as easily.</p>
<p>What are your career goals?</p>
<p>I don’t know. Who do you like better? James Franco or Channing Tatum? Natalie Portman or Scarlett Johansson? Or in my age group…The Beatles or The Stones? It’s different for different people. I have a degree in accounting. Would I have been better off with econ or math or a law degree, all subjects I enjoy. Who knows. What you do is make the best decision with the information you have at the time. You just try and figure pout which will make you happiest.</p>
<p>So is the problem with the male/female stats that there are not enough women or is it that there are not enough women!</p>
<p>I mean I thought that I would like Econ because I like seeing how the economy works as a whole and how events around the world could affect the economy etc etc etc
But then I took ap economics and I did not like it. It was super theoretical, which I wouldn’t mind if I actually fully understood it. I didn’t pick it up that easily as say APUSH or AP world. Our teacher was part time (couldnt stay after to ask questions) and really bad at teaching (he would basically let us text the whole time) so that may be why I didn’t get it. Honestly, I dunno</p>
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<p>You will take Macro and Micro as part of the business curriculum. So who knows what you will think after that. But your plan certainly is reasonable. </p>
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<p>We are all different.</p>
<p>in regards to getting into consulting, you have to be at a top school for that. That is immensely more important than your degree.</p>
<p>Top 20?
I have a couple friends that are working at Ibanking firms. They went to schools like the university of Denver. Got a few cousins working at Morgan Stanley telling me how a lot of people didn’t even go to ivies but schools like u Delaware
I’m not doubting what your saying since from all my research Ibanking and consulting are hard to get into. I’m just wondering how you specifically get into it. Maybe I just know the exceptions.</p>
<p>Not all jobs with Ibanks are in Ibanking. Many are in support, sales, HR etc.</p>
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<p>Only if you want to go to one of the top three strategic firms. If you want to work for someone like Deloitte or Accenture or E&Y, you can get into those firms from a lot of schools. For example, at one point in the past I worked for Accenture. We recruited at the business school at U of MN - Twin Cities and also at Luther College in Iowa (LAC). I am sure the office recruited at a lot of other schools in the area, those were just the two schools where I was assigned to do a lot of recruiting days. And you do not need an MBA to get into those firms, either. Now, I will say that any business major, info systems/CIS majors, and econ majors had an easier time getting on the interview schedule than other majors.</p>
<p>No like he’s actually in I banking. I even checked his LinkedIn profile 
I’m super jealous since I have friends at UVA and Cornell that haven’t gotten even an interview. It’s seems a bit unfair since their busting their assess at really hard schools while he goes to u Denver. Not saying its a bad school but my Cornell friends have a way heavier workload. Regardless, they still have awesome internships - just not in Ibanking. I found it weird and was just wondering if there were other major factors than your university and your grades to get into Ibanking or consulting.
Regardless, I agree that their both super competitive fields. Would going to any top 20 with a strong business school be a good enough or would you have to stick to the ivies?</p>
<p>Never be mislead by the few exceptions to any rule. IB and big consulting used to hire over half of class at Harvard/Princeton. They might hire 1 at DU every decade.</p>