@Rancho What’s the point of your thread dragging seriously? It’s no question I think holistic admission is the stupidest thing ever invented. All these schools could easily admit by talent areas and achieve the “well-rounded” class that they claim to seek, but they don’t. Instead they make these kids run themselves ragged doing everything just so they aren’t dominated by one demographic group. Why not just come right out and set a quota by race and be done with it - admit each group in proportion to their respective distribution in the general population, strictly by merit. Relying on essays is just dumb. There is no way to authenticate any information in the essays, or know who’s had their essays written by professionals.