<p>^read above.
People keep saying it's not that hard to get into, or its academics aren't that great anymore. Is that true? Its acceptance percent is like 30%, which is really high for an Ivy school. </p>
<p>ANYWAY, this thread is really dumb, I know. Just bored. Basically just wondering if Cornell is still a top-notch school and people see that you've gone there and are like.....<em>GASP</em></p>
<p>prepare to be flamed out of your mind...</p>
<p>Cornell is one of the strongest schools academically in the country and in the world. It easily has the best engineering and science programs in the US. The 30 percent acceptance rate is only because the university is so large as a whole, with 13,000+ undergrads. And, by the way, the acceptance rate is going to be between 20-25 percent this year. When you go within the individual colleges the acceptance rates can be even lower. Arts and Sciences this year will have around a 17 percent acceptance rate.</p>
<p>^^ woops, I posted this @ the same time at you
No, acceptance rates will be going down this year as applications are up 16%
Also, when talking about the high acceptance rate, many people don't take into account Cornell's large size in comparison with the other ivies
I've never seen anyone say that academics aren't great
And I don't think 14th in the US news rankings is all that bad
And yes, well said, this thread is really dumb, you should find better things to do when you're bored...making unjustified assertions to **** people off isn't exactly my idea of fun</p>
<p>And about the "gasp" factor. When I tell people I'm going to Cornell their mouth's drop. Cornell has more of a name recognition than several of the other Ivys. Most people have not heard of Dartmouth because it is so small, and everyone confuses UPenn with Penn State. Schools like Brown are only recognized within the United States, while Cornell is known internationally.</p>
<p>you can't go downhill if you're already at the bottom of the slope</p>
<p>Shizz,</p>
<p>You're talking about Libe Slope riight?</p>
<p>Because Cornell is on top of the hill both literally and figuratively.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>Wharf</p>
<p>You know....I still don't understand the "more spots" argument....Shouldn't a school with more students have a comparable increase in applications as well if the schools are equally prestigious? I'm not trying to bash Cornell; I love the school, its just that I don't understand the logic behind this argument exactly.</p>
<p>I don't even understand why people debate this topic. It's obviously a stellar school, among the elite of the elite. Why argue exactly where it is in that pile</p>
<p>No towerpumpkin. The way I see it, the number of top students, READ: Applicants, remains the same. A larger school simply has more spots, so they have to accept a greater number of applicants, presuming yields are comperable.</p>
<p>So then it really all depends on yield?</p>
<p>Yes, if a school has more spots to give, inevitably, it will receive more applications. However, the increase in the number of applications will not increase in proportion to the number of increase in spots. That's my theory anyway.</p>
<p>exactly, hence the huge drop in acceptance rate this year. like 23% for the undergraduate part of the university as a whole and like 16% for CAS or something...
those numbers could be off, but they seem to ring a bell. Thats down from 32% overall btw i think</p>
<p>lol.
Sorry I pis-ed u guys off (gee, they don't let you write pi-sed out? thats wacky), if I did.
But that's great, if it's still a really good school.
And crap for the whole acceptance percent dropping, that REALLY sucks.
In two years, it'll probably be like 10% and then I'll never get in. Haha.</p>
<p>I would say this thread is entirely idiotic, but due to the fact that it brings us a few steps closer to Cornell's TOTAL domination of UPenn (on the boards), we can entertain such ridiculous claims! :p</p>
<p>wheres nicky jane...i want to hear her comments on this hahaha</p>
<p>I do not know about it well. But as an international student, I know that Cornell is regarded as one of the best colleges in the United States in Asia. Asians think Cornell is something like #2-3 among the Ivy's because they do not know Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, Princeton, UPenn very well. Also, I don't think a high acceptance rate means that the school is bad. It has a high acceptance rate just because it is supposed to take about three times as many students as other top schools do. Furthermore, it is definitely not going downhill as evident in this year's dramatic increase in number of applicants.</p>
<p>It's a variety of factors. Cornell offers the most comprehensive ivy education you can get.</p>
<p>Horticulture, Botany, Atmospheric Sciences, Science of Earth/Natural Systems, etc.</p>
<p>This majors have LOW DEMAND. <em>Think aboud it</em> Cornell offers so many unique majors.</p>
<p>Cornell has about 3,500 seats for freshmen, most of the other Ivy leagues have 1,000 - 1,500. Imagine if Cornell lowered it's class size to 1,500. Do the math, it's acceptance rate would plummet.</p>
<p>Something like this isn't hard to see. It doesn't mean if you offer more seats then you'll get an equal return on the amount of applicants to match those increase in seats to maintain the same acceptance rate.</p>
<p>This is why I think rankings should really be based on majors/departments because they have their own selectivity.</p>