<p>@naoise:</p>
<p>So.....how true is the "Slutgers" idea?</p>
<p>That is correct, Colm: if you wish to major in Architecture, it would be stupid to pass up Cornell in favor of any school. Cornell is the only Ivy League/comparable university with a 5-year B. Arch. degree.</p>
<p>Point of fact: my friend at MIT applied to AAP and was rejected. She is now studying architecture at MIT.</p>
<p>When I meet alumni of other Ivies and top schools, they seem to regard to Cornell as "in the same pack". They're not stupid. They know that my SAT score was probably the same or a couple percentage points lower than theirs. And that their school might be only a few slots higher than Cornell in the US News rankings. But compared to the multitudinous masses of grads from no-name schools and big state universities, those differences are insignificant. Not to mention that your alma mater is somewhat insignificant anyways, because there are Harvard grads fetching coffee and Cornell grads in top government positions. And there are some pompous jerks from Harvard just as there are some from Cornell. And then there are the folks to went to multiple schools: undergrad at Cornell, law school at Columia, etc., etc.</p>
<p>Penn is definitely an upper echelon Vet school. I would put it in the same sentence as Cornell and Davis.</p>
<p>some aspects of penn are better and some of cornell are better. it's just what you want to study that makes one school better than the other (and it's what YOU want, nobody else).</p>
<p>UPenn has a RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME linguistics program.</p>
<p>And not just for grads, for us underlings as well, especially if you want to do computational linguistics, or phonetics.</p>
<p>Cornell has THE premier architecture program in the country.</p>
<p>(Of course, at the same time, they have the worst building to house it in.
I swear to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, when I first walked into Rand's third floor studio, I almost vomited......all of the glue, and particle board, and wood, and paint just smells awful....and it's so HOT!...ugh...)</p>
<p>Except, Cornell also has a baller Classics department, and their Math department (because, yeah, they have a dedicated Engineering school, not just a program), is no joke either.</p>
<p>(As opposed to Dartmouth's math dept...which apparently, with the exception of having Carl Pomerance (Erdos2! IS a joke)</p>
<p>You are right CR2005, the University of Pennsylvania has a very good Veterinary Medicine program. However, according to the only major publication that ranks this program -- US News and World Report -- Penn ranks 4th. Cornell University is 1st. Cornell usually vies with Colorado State University for the top two slots, and UC--Davis is currently in the third position. So of the colleges mentioned above, I would personally choose Cornell, because I prefer its campus and its high quality academic context over the others.</p>
<p>Colm, what on earth are you trying to pull here?</p>
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Oooh, I think I got a veiled shout-out.</p>
<p>As for the OP. Few people think Cornell is "bad" or "worse" than other Ivies; certainly in terms of education, this is not the case. However, it is as a whole the least selective Ivy League school.</p>
<p>If you're as shallow as I am, and this bothers you, than simply get your 3.8 and transfer to a higher ranked school (believe me - it IS that easy).</p>
<p>If not, collect your superb education, have a great time, and graduate.
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<p>I agree. </p>
<p>I'm going to stop reading right here and leave with a good impression.</p>
<p>Only shallow people put down Cornell. There are quite a number of those at HYP, but much less so at Stanford and MIT, in my opinion. However, one should not judge a book by its cover. Someone who looks "down" on us Cornellians is not someone I'd like to befriend.</p>
<p>The corollary to this is not to "look down" on others who go to lower-ranked schools. My best friends typically went to Rutgers or Seton Hall. In the end, it's how you apply yourself and not where you went to school.</p>
<p>^james, shut up. this thread just came to a nice conclusion with MPs last post.</p>
<p>MP, please dont respond and just let this thread die, I know its tempting.</p>
<p>OK. Die thread, die!</p>
<p>Die I say as well!</p>
<p>jameschen- I don't understand the idea of looking down on Rutgers. I really don't. i've read about some of the scientific research done there and it is just as amazing as that at an Ivy. There are plenty of amazing people there, and I agree, anyone that looks down on Cornell or even lower-ranked schools is really just looking for an excuse to cover up their own insecurities.</p>
<p>Okay, now this thread can die.</p>
<p>@OP: Why would you care?</p>
<p>Everyone has opinions. Some are more ridiculous than others. :P</p>
<p>cornell is the greatest university in existence. just ask andy bernard.
YouTube</a> - Cornell The Office Reference</p>
<p>the only reason cornell is "less selective" than the other ivies is that nature demands it. It has a larger class size.</p>
<p>nooo this is my thread don't let it die! jk.</p>
<p>OK - Here's a thought to keep nooob's thread alive. Outside of those of us who compulsively inhabit CC, the average American generally perceives some prestige with the Ivy League label. But which of the schools has the greatest name cachet? Clearly H, Y, and P, and then who? USNWR might suggest Penn, but Penn students are habitually irritated by having their university confused with Penn State. Some might say Columbia, but there are hundreds of entities across the country named "Columbia" from records to a broadcast system to sportswear. There are even several other colleges called Columbia. And Brown's a wonderful school, but stop 100 people on the street in Georgia, and I'd bet >50 wouldn't be familiar with it. After H, Y and P, which most Americans easily recognize, the most recognizable Ivies for the average American (IMO) would be Cornell and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>But it's still true that other Ivies look down on Cornell.</p>
<p>I mean, Yale's parents are just so tallll, and Harvard has that jetpack, and Princeton is a stilt aficionado....They can't help it!</p>
<p>You get out of school what you put into it.</p>
<p>I can guarantee you that a student's objective success at any accredited four year school is a measure of that student, not the school.</p>