<p>I love Dartmouth..I love the idea of being in a small rural community. On top of that, it is a GREAT school with so many great, intelligent people. However, sadly, it is my second choice because it's all the way in New Hampshire..and my parents want me to stay closer to home. So, I'll probably end up choosing Stanford...but i still say Rock on Dartmouth!</p>
<p>PantherModern-</p>
<p>Dartmouth is 10th on the US News rankings (we won't even go into the merits and disadvantages to that ranking system). What do you mean by "significantly higher"? 9 places? Or do you mean in terms of prestige?</p>
<p>I agree with sybbie- I just think too many people are using Dartmouth as a backup for H/Y/P. Dartmouth is very different from the above three. Like others have said, it's something like a cross between and Ivy and LAC. People who really want to go- and the people who get in- demonstrate that they're very clear on that fact and have specific reasons for wanting to go.</p>
<p>Also, there's no escaping the rural factor. If you can't deal with that, don't even bother applying. While there are trips to Boston and Montreal, the majority of your time will be spent on campus, or in the surrounding area. It's one of the parts I like best about Dartmouth.</p>
<p>RasberrySmoothie-</p>
<p>I see what you're saying, but can you really blame me for using dartmouth as a backup to HYP? I know its different, but there's no reason a backup cant be very different. Anyway, the ways in which Dartmouth is different from HYP are not the factors that cocern me in any case. I am giving almost no consideration to location, and other things that separate them. I'm just looking at what each college has for my intended major/s.
Dartmouth is a fantastic school. I think that mostly because it is probably #1 if you take a poll of each college's undergraduates and alumni and asked them if they were satisifed and happy with their college experience. Dartmouth kids tend to be crazy about the school. Great experience and academics.
But. Yale's prestige has to be taken into account. Its degrees are more valuable in almost every sense. Thats my first choice at the moment. I would be equally happy at Dartmouth, but I have to prefer Yale to Dartmouth if I get in.
I'll agree with you on one point though, ranks and prestige arent everything. I'm not going to separate Dartmouth, Cornell, Penn, etc. based on ranks and prestige alone. Thats too simplistic. Buy HYP are just a knockout.</p>
<p>They say Dartmouth is a safety to Harvard, but how can that be. They are so different. In a way, Dartmouth is unique among the Ivies.I would say Penn is the HYP safety because it is more similar to the bigger schools.</p>
<p>um...no offense but encomium, why did you even apply? the 3 points that you had concerns about are pretty much the 3 biggest things about dartmouth, its frats, its outdoorsiness, and the D-Plan! was it just because it was highly ranked by usnews and an ivy? please tell me otherwise.</p>
<p>Yale's degrees are "more valuable" than Dartmouth's...right...</p>
<p>Let's face it, HY are in a class by themselves, which is not a slam at any other school...</p>
<p>"Yale's degrees are "more valuable" than Dartmouth's...right..."</p>
<p>Yes, exactly.</p>
<p>Eh... HYP is so trite.</p>
<p>Everyone knows that the new HYP is Brown, Dartmouth, and Columbia.</p>
<p>To me, Dartmouth represents everything that is "right" about a college. Small, intimate student community(but not too small). Nearly 100% focus on undergrduate education. Beautiful, well kept campus in a "village" environment. Safe, nearly zero crime area. Excellent academic reputation. There is no doubt in my mind that if I can graduate with strong grades, I will have plenty of excellent options for jobs or grad school...the same as I would have with an equal performance at any of the other top schools. </p>
<p>Dartmouth is a unique environment for learning and living, in many ways THE perfect place.</p>
<p>I agree completely.</p>
<p>Thanks for articulating that, it was just a blob of emotions and words in my mind. :p</p>
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Dartmouth is a unique environment for learning and living, in many ways THE perfect place.
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Did you happen to notice that cows outnumber people around there.</p>
<p>LOL that's more like UC Davis, though...</p>
<p>Harvard degree more "valuable" than Yale or Princeton? which is more valuable than Brown? or Dartmouth?</p>
<p>Hate to break the news to you but nothing is universal. Go west of the Mississippi and those Ivy degrees start losing value. Northwestern grads dominate the upper mid-west, Washington/St.Louis dominates the middle, and Rice is king the South. </p>
<p>In the West, the top Stanford, Berkeley, USC and UCLA grads will trump most every East Coast Ivy grad , most every time. They OWN the territory.</p>
<p>Even on the East Coast, MIT beats the Ivy's for anything Tech and often for Business too.</p>
<p>Don't get too wrapped up with a microanalysis of whose degree is more "valuable." Pick the school you think is the best fit for you(hopefully one of the top 30) and everything else will take care of itself.</p>
<p>umm thats not true, actually thats close to 100% false lol. Berkeley and Stanford may be in an equal light as HYP but USC and UCLA are not. sorry :-/</p>
<p>as for the south i know Rice isnt either. HYP is carried everywhere, but i wouldnt say it is "worth more" than anything else. but the prestige is present everywhere</p>
<p>i also lived in the midwest for a number of years and even in Chicago and St. Louis (my mother was a professor at WUSTL) Ivy education is much more highly respected than northwestern and wustl</p>
<p>I'm not offended.</p>
<p>I applied to Dartmouth because it was easy, because it was on common app, and the application fee didn't bother me. It's kind of like a "just in case" school. (hah, not really like that, but you know what i mean)</p>
<p>I'm in SoCal. Believe me when I tell you that there are more USC and UCLA grads running companies, making the big bucks and doing the big deals than Ivy grads. And they tend to hire their own, promote their own, favor their own. And that's not even bringing Stanford and Berkeley into it. Or CalTech.</p>
<p>An Ivy degree in SoCal or NoCal isn't going to impress that way it does on the East Coast...They're just other good schools.</p>
<p>Of course, conversely, the West Coast degrees won't impress anyone in the East Coast banking, investment and law communities. Geography is destiny?</p>
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Let's face it, HY are in a class by themselves, which is not a slam at any other school...
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<p>Let's face it...you're a moron. And that's not a slam at you, just the truth.</p>
<p>Maybe you've already seen this. If not:</p>
<p>To me, it says:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Don't make youself crazy if you don't get into any Ivy.</p></li>
<li><p>Any Ivy will do just fine.</p></li>
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