Is Dartmouth really your first choice?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Dartmouth College
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<p>An Ivy degree in many areas outside the Northeast is a mixed blessing at best. In the South, yes, everyone including the lowliest man on the street will have heard of Harvard, Yale, probably even Princeton. The problem is that half of them, including half of the people you might be asking for a job, will react negatively - as in, "Oh, look at the smart*** college boy." - Not quite the adulation you had in mind, huh? Of course, most of the people who are trying "rate the Ivies" are from the NE anyway, so have at it guys, most of the rest of the country doen't really care.</p>

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i also lived in the midwest for a number of years and even in Chicago and St. Louis (my mother was a professor at WUSTL) Ivy education is much more highly respected than northwestern and wustl

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<p>"much more highly respected"? Wow, you just lost your credibility by making such stupid statement. You lived there when you were like 15? You weren't a recruiter, were you?? Please refrain from putting things you don't know anything about. Last I checked, Northwestern/WUSTL are ranked higher than Cornell and Brown. The truth is, to a midwest recruiter, they are all about the same (with the exception of the H-bomb) and GPA/work experience are the most important things on your resume.</p>

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The day college acceptance letters arrive is to teens the moment of truth: they learn what the adult world really thinks of them, and receive an omen of whether or not their lives will be successful. Of course, grown-up land is full of Yale graduates who are unhappy failures and Georgia Tech grads who run big organizations or have a great sense of well-being. But teens can't be expected to understand this.

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<p>What's funny is we have bunch of those teens/college students who never have a full-time job before but insist how everything will just fall for you if you got Ivy education. LOL!</p>

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<p>Sometimes the resentment spills out over the edge of the cup when it is being swung around with such righteous fury:</p>

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<p>hmmmmmm.</p>

<p>You have no doubt heard the parable of people who live in glass houses--but if not, be careful when swinging around such an indignant chalice of stones: you might end up hurting yourself
.......................instead of your strawman.</p>

<p>It should be remembered: </p>

<p>.........there are alot of Georgia Tech grads who are unhappy failures and COMMUNITY COLLEGE grads who run big organizations or have a great sense of well being. But, often, parents can't be expected to understand this........</p>

<p>Though this may be true, I don't expect alot of students will give up their dream of Georgia Tech for our pick-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps community college advice.</p>

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<p>sybbie:</p>

<p>too bad your well-intentioned thread was hijacked. Dartmouth is my S's #1 choice, actually only choice besides a UC safety, but we won't likely apply.</p>

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<p>but doesn't some of the answers and trains of thought seem to correlate to some of the discussions that we have been having on the parents forum?</p>

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<p>Dartmouth, as I have already written elsewhere on this board, is my #1!
I was accepted ea Yale bu this was what I wanted........why?</p>

<p>Because I know what I want. I don't need the rankings to tell me what I want: like too many others on these stinking boards:cool:</p>

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<p>kalidescope,</p>

<p>Do you know what this means, some person with a Dartmouth likely who is waiting on Yale is going to call you crazy at the thought of you turning down Yale for Dartmouth (if I am assessing this correctly)</p>

<p>Congratulations to you. I am happy about you going where you feel that you want and need. You are going to have an amazing time in Hanover.</p>

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<p>Kalidescope - you ought to get in a posting match with Mensa ;). My daughter's first choice was Yale until she spent a few weeks there this past summer. She didn't even apply, so I don't know if she would have gotten in, but she went Dartmouth ED. Ya'll should chat as fellow rejectees OF Yale, as opposed to rejected by Yale!</p>

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<p>Thanks Sybbie,</p>

<p>I'm sure I would like Yale or Michigan, but I know myself enough to know I'm not chosing to be no-more than a
lottery-playing-1400+SAT-wannabe. </p>

<p>I picked a school that matches what I want not what everyone says I should want.
More power to the people who always want what would make them important. I don't need a school to validate what I am or what I want.</p>

<p>I say bring it on you prestige-whores!
..............at your own risk! :cool:</p>

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<p>Each Ivy is so different in size and personality. Everyone should be able to find a good match, good chemistry.</p>

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<p>Woodwork,</p>

<p>I went to 2 schools that are currently ranked in top-15 and top-5; to say I am "resenting" is an overstatement. The "teens/college students" are some of those who posted on CC, not necessarily on this thread alone. It's funny that you criticized me for "belittling" (did I?) someone when I was criticizing that person for ridiculously thinking Ivies are "MUCH more valued" than great schools like Northwestern/WashU. I wonder why you have strong feeling about my comments but seem pretty okay with the ridiculously elistist claims from others. There's nothing wrong to pick an ivy (I picked Stanford over Georgia Tech myself); I am just telling people the degrees from those schools are NOT "much more highly valued" than schools in top 50, let alone top-20 schools like Northwestern/WashU.</p>

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<p>I'm sorry if I offended you Sam Lee. I assumed you were referring to comments made by teenagers who are excited about their particular schools. Although, I have never come across any post in which a student categorically "insist how everything will just fall for you if you got Ivy education" and assumed you were exaggerating. Then when you seemed to be criticizing another student for overstating what he said I thought it to be a bit incongruous (pot calling the kettle black sort of thing).</p>

<p>You are absolutely right in my opinion to say that WUSL and Northwestern are on the same academic footing as schools like Dartmouth. However, I think the student you were indicting was only saying that "Ivy" schools have a bigger rep/respect nationally. I have no idea if he was correct or not, not having lived across the country.</p>

<p>Obviously you were not being resentful, so from one adult to another, my bad.</p>

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<p>Joemama,</p>

<p>I agree that each scoll is in some way different, however, Dartmout is certainly very unique within the Ivy schools--extremely unique infact. Harvard, Penn, Yale, Columbia and to a lesser degree Brown share many similarities. Cornell is certainly different in size and offerings (huge). Princeton is certainly different then the above 4 (HPYC). But, really, you could not be more unique than Dartmouth within the Ivies, both for undergrad focus and environment. Although I would say that all the top 15-25 schools are great schools--not just the Ivies.</p>

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And that's not a slam at you, just the truth

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Xanatos,if you had any inkling of the truth, your life partner wouldn't be a New Hamphire Dairy Cow.</p>

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<p>what does that even mean?</p>

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<p>LOL I'm with bluirinka.</p>

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LOL I'm with bluirinka.

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You mean you're life partners too?</p>

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<p>Yes. That's exactly what I mean.</p>

<p>It's a long distance relationship, though- NorCal and NorJer.</p>

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<p>mensa,
I'm not exactly clear on this</p>

<p>Does this mean that you, yourself, do or do not have an inkling of the truth?</p>

<p>Should I take it that when people are in error in your neck of the woods they tend to marry dairy cows?
If so, are you always right and therefore "single" or, I hesitate to say it.</p>

<p>just kidding!</p>

<p>you're probably too young to get married.;)</p>