<p>Ken you are right and I shouldn't have assumed that, I apologize.</p>
<p>Zorz = goat4d = i586</p>
<p>It's so obvious that it's pathetic.</p>
<p>lol I totally see the similarities as well.</p>
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<p>And yes, the similarities are there.</p>
<p>"I find it hard to believe a 3.3 student would have an advantage over a 3.8 student in employment. On the other hand, I also don't think the 3.8 is looked at to be significantly better than the 3.3. As long as you keep it above a 3.0, HR would probably look at your other qualifications, including previous internships and such, and interviews."</p>
<p>I agree with you that it seems out that someone with a 3.8 might seem "disadvantaged." THAT is not true at all. Person A with a 3.3 might have a good chance to get into an entry-level engineering position at Northrup Grumman or Lockheed Martin or a small (not well known) engineering firm. Someone with a 3.8 might get into Google, Microsoft, get in an awesome graduate school, and get into SPECIAL programs at MG and Lockheed Martin. </p>
<p>Higher GPA = more options. Higher GPA = better. But if both of you are applying to an entry-level job where someone with a 2.8 GPA can get in, and the focus of the thing is teamwork and listening to a superior, they would rather hire the 3.3 person (cheaper).</p>
<p>But if you got a high GPA, demonstrated experience in teamwork and the such, you can get any job the person with the low GPA can get. Its more like some jobs don't require "smart" people so they are afraid a smarter person might cause trouble cuz the work is boring or w/e i guess. A friend of mine from my church told me that at NG (he is a manager) that most of the ppl they hire are 3.0-3.5. Does not mean 3.5+ don't get hired, no it justs means they go for better jobs or they might not have the appropriate teamwork skills?</p>
<p>oh wait, mr. "i586" WHY would Ibm pay for your phd? don't most students get stipends and free tuition ANYWAY for getting their phd? im sure ibm would pay for your masters, but a phd is totally different. most big companies help pay for their worker's masters, NOT PHD!!!!</p>
<p>um sure they do, i know quite a few giys who are current phd candidates and IBM is paying for it.</p>
<p>i don't think you get it i586, PhD programs are usually free and you get PAID to be a graduate student! I do not see why any company would pay someone to get their PhD. You might work part-time and get it, but thats not what you said.</p>
<p>hinmanCEO is right. All the PhD students I know don't pay one dime for tuition.</p>
<p>This kid is a complete troll. PhD students are awarded the degree after completing research FOR THE UNIVERSITY. A PhD student is merely employed by the school to do research for them. As a result of the extremely low pay and hard work the school will award them with a Doctoral Degree.
2) IBM, or any other employer for that fact, are no going to pay a employee to do research for a university. If IBM needs research done, they will hire employees to do the work for them not so that a university can publish it.</p>
<p>I have nothing to prove really, so I will continue to give the advice I know to be true, If you guys want to continue to give false advise then thats ok also. But I know im right and right by experience.</p>
<p>we are not giving false advice. you are giving people FALSE hope. "oh, hi, i make $85k a year at IBM, i study 10-15 hours a day, i won't support my kids financely for college, i got a 2.84.. and i am not sure if i have graduated or not."</p>
<p>i bet you are making this all up to make yourself feel better. -_- troll. sigh.</p>
<p>I have not graduated yet, though I could if I wanted to. so it is just as good as graduating. I haven't ever lied on this forum and I do make that much. IBM hires on a scheme that pays you more for the skills you have.</p>
<p>id rather spread the truth rather than putting people down. You guys come around saying if you don't go to a top 10 without a 3.5, you wont get a job. Thats just false, grades and the school you go to mean much less to a company than how well you perform as a engineer, doing written tests and solving problem sets may earn you a high gpa, but since when do engineers solve problem sets for a living they don't. A company would be much more impressed with somebody who could prove they knew what they were talking about. They would show this in the interview as well as through a portfolio of projects. My school and my grades sure as hell didn't get me a job at IBM. I got me a job at IBM. I have said it before that I am more self taught and learned by doing projects and such. If you look at the major success stories in technology. The Biggest of the Big are those who said fcuuuuk school. </p>
<p>If you want to belive me, then thats great you are making the right choice. If you dont then thats ok to, as I could care less. I am here to help those understand that being a engineer is not about problem sets and a gpa.</p>
<p>I agree that doing well on a project is more important that doing well on problem sets ALONE. You want to do well in both. Problem sets test you in theory and the concepts, if you don't even know that stuff, you won't know what it takes to finish a project.</p>
<p>no one ever said you need a 3.5 or etc. i even said my student (whom I tutor) is going to make $65k a year at Northrop Grumman starting this fall with a 2.2 GPA (due to illness/depression)</p>