<p>Yes, I did apply to Dartmouth ED, and I was encouraged by the 30% acceptance rate early. </p>
<p>My question is, how distorted is that figure? I know Dartmouth pulls in about 2/3 of their athletes early, and a significant number of legacies. So what's left over? Is there any statistical advantage?</p>
<p>I'd appreciate anything ya'll can share.</p>
<p>For the freshman class entering in 2005 (the 9's)</p>
<p>1180 applied, 397 were admitted.</p>
<p>One third of the applicants were rejected and one thrid was deferred tot he RD round.</p>
<p>Overall approximately 40 % of the freshman class consist of hooked applicants (athletes, legacies, URMs and developmental admits)</p>
<p>FOr the class of 2009 there were 123 legacies (I can't say if they all applied ED)
<a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2005050901010%5B/url%5D">http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2005050901010</a></p>
<p>according to President Wright</p>
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The early pool consists of highly qualified young people who obviously could have their pick of any number of very selective institutions, but who have Dartmouth as a clear first choice. The higher admissions rate for the early pool at Dartmouth, and elsewhere, is, more than anything else, a result of the differences in the composition of the early pool as compared to the regular pool. Approximately two-thirds of our recruited athletes come to us through the early admission process. Coaches work hard to attract candidates who meet our high academic standards and have both the athletic skills to compete successfully in the Ivy League and the desire to attend Dartmouth. These students are heavily screened prior to their application in order to ensure that they are, in fact, qualified to attend. Consequently, their admit rate tends to be higher than that of the overall pool. Our Ivy League peers also admit most of their recruited athletes through early programs.</p>
<p>About 17 percent of the early admits are legacies - daughters and sons of Dartmouth alumni. The College generally admits such candidates at a significantly higher rate than non-legacy applicants. These are very talented students, many of whom knew from a young age that they wished to attend Dartmouth, and the intergenerational loyalty of alumni has, of course, long been a vital aspect of the Dartmouth culture.</p>
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<p>I would think that there would have to be at least some advantage, even for the "un-hooked" (and I mean real hooks - recruited athletes, URMs, legacies, etc), because you're committing to a school and saying you'll matriculate no matter what. That's a pretty big commitment, and I would think that those who choose to do so would at least get something in return - something bigger than "finding out early."</p>
<p>Having said that, I'm sure the acceptance rate of un-hooked applicants in the early round is far from 33% - but them I'm sure it's not ~13%, either. Even if 50% of the early pool is hooked in some way, I'm sure all whom are hooked are not getting accepted at a rate of 100%. Recruited athletes probably boast a pretty high acceptance rate, but I'm sure not all legacies and URMs are accepted. And that's not based off of statistical knowledge, that's just based off of common sense. It's simply too competative for the folks in McNutt Hall to accept everyone who's hooked. I don't think ED would help someone who's reject-material get in, but I also don't follow the logic that "if 50% of the early pool is hooked and the acceptance rate is 33% overall, then the acceptance rate for non-hooked applicants must be 16.5%" - because that's assuming that absolutely everyone hooked is getting in. Obviously, that's not the case.</p>
<p>As far as the early applicant pool being "stronger," I think that's partly BS. You may get strong applicants who don't need to "prove themselves" with first semester grades, but you'll probably also get borderline applicants who think that ED is going to give them that extra push. Of course, Dartmouth doesn't release the stats of those who apply early (neither do most other schools - perhaps it's because, <em>gasp</em> their stats might actually be lower!), so it's all speculation. </p>
<p>But I'm just another '07 EDer, so I don't claim to know everything. This is just my opinion. Truth be told, we'll all just have to wait until December!</p>
<p>an admissions officer said that the admission rate for unhooked ED apps is "only a few percentage points" higher than for RD. Of course, one can only guess what a "few" means....</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Hi Hairdressonfire (whoa that's a mouthful and maybe one day you will share how you got your s/n) good luck to you in the ED pool. </p>
<p>I know from watching this board for almost 5 years, who gets admitted ED/RD is anyone's guess (and the major reason that I don't assess anyone's chances). There have been students during both rounds who I rooted for and thought they would certainly be admitted and weren't and others who I thought it's going to be a bit uphill but hang in there and let the process play it self out and they were admitted. </p>
<p>Overall I do think that the recruited atlethes do fill a lot of spots especially in sports like skiing,figure skating (even though it is a club sport) basketball "helmet sports", track and crew. Even at the legecy level, there are legacies, and there are legacies and yes, they do get rejected in ED. Another variable is siblings (from what I see, Dartmouth seems to like them and there are quite a few dartmouth sibs on campus) then again, having a sibling is not a shoo - in. </p>
<p>As many have said, grades and scores imho gets you over the first hurlde, and frm what I have seen in the classes that are formed, it seems that Dartmouth takes a lot of time and care in crafting a class of students that best suits their institutional mission (whatever that mission may be).</p>
<p>I know in my house there was no ED because although Dartmouth was D's first choice, I did not want her to blindly go into something with out knowing how much the bottom line was going to be so she applied RD and it worked out.</p>
<p>The thing you are right about, is once december comes, we'll defintiely know the answers. Hang in there and all the best to you.</p>
<p>For the unhooked, I don't think so.</p>
<p>If you take out recruited athletes, the acceptance rate for ED and RD is supposed to be pretty close to the same rate, according to the Admissions rep info session I attended.</p>
<p>is that so?????</p>