<p>So I was looking online on berkeley's admissions stats and it said last year the in-state acceptance rate was like 22% and the out of state acceptance rate was 35%?...
I keep hearing from everybody about how berkeley is so much harder to get in OOS.
what is the deal?.</p>
<p>i think in the end all the OOsers who end up applying are atleast as strong (if not stronger) than the average instate applicant.</p>
<p>so in the end maybe the 35% OOS that get accepted have higher stats on average than in state so while their acceptance rate is slightly higher, they still have more fierce competition against each other. </p>
<p>i think because of that alone OOS is still harder.</p>
<p>UC Statfinder stats for 2008/09 admissions:</p>
<p>California Public HS:
1800 - 2099 Total SAT: 12,268 applicants; 3,694 admits; 1,689 enrollees; 30.1% admit rate; 45.7% yield
2100 - 2400 Total SAT: 4,806 applicants; 3,232 admits; 1,178 enrollees; 67.2% admit rate; 36.4% yield</p>
<p>California Private HS:
1800 - 2099 Total SAT: 2,888 applicants; 702 admits; 269 enrollees; 24.3% admit rate; 38.3% yield
2100 - 2400 Total SAT: 1,342 applicants; 781 admits; 159 enrollees; 58.2% admit rate; 20.4% yield</p>
<p>Other High School (ie OOS):
1800 - 2099 Total SAT: 4,449 applicants; 590 admits; 271 enrollees; 13.3% admit rate; 45.9% yield
2100 - 2400 Total SAT: 2,864 applicants; 1,255 admits; 312 enrollees; 43.8% admit rate; 24.9% yield</p>
<p>So, given similar stats, OOS is still harder since Berkeley primarily favors in-state applicants…however, this is supposed to be changing as Berkeley seeks to enroll more full pay OOSers.</p>
<p>The OOS pool is self-selecting. In-state students are probably applying to some UC anyway so applying to Berkeley is a matter of ponying up the application fee and ticking a check box. OOS students are going out of their way to apply to Berkeley and will be paying 2x to attend so they tend to apply only when they think they’ve got a shot.</p>
<p>Yes it is easier…at least it’s becoming easier. If you are from foreign country, that’s even better.</p>
<p>Applicants from outside of California are still held to much higher academic standards compared to applicants from California.</p>
<p>First off, those that claim that it is harder for OOS are incorrect, and have long been incorrect. The admissions data on statfinder show that the difference between IS and OOS are not significantly different. That being said, think about AP Stats…the OOS applicants are a self-selecting pool: higher income and attend good/great suburban high schools; thus, good test scores, gpa’s and time for EC’s. The OOS applicant pool will look different than the IS applicant pool and I would guess it would be stronger on average.</p>
<p>@bluebayou . . . uhh the admissions rate might not be too different for OOS, but you yourself said that they were self selecting and typically higher achieving than IS applicants. So for the same person, he or she would have an easier time getting in IS than OOS.</p>