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<p>Not true. If Harvard’s sticker price is $10,000 instead of $54,000 with free application fee, Harvard would have had 100,000+ applicants and assembled the brightest student body.</p>
<p>Harvard loses many bright students because they have to pay full sticker price. Those students choose state flagship schools with full merit based aid.</p>
<p>I wonder if you’ll get anywhere in life with your type of personality. Hey, you might even be fortunate enough to not make enough money to have to pay for your children’s education. How nice would that be, sending your children to college for free?</p>
<p>what i dont get is your idiotic and ■■■■■■■■ analogy. a harvard education is not the same a mercedes car. you cannot compare the financial support policy for either. harvard gives out financial aid, because of the simple policy that income should not limit the outcome. the students who work so much and sacrfice so much to get into Harvard are not at fault if they are unable to pay, and Harvard is lucky to have a generous endowment that can support all these talented students. if you look at how much you get out of Harvard, in terms of services, and if you consider its expenses, you wouldn’t go babbling about cutting costs. state universities have the advantage of state funding, which private universities don’t have as much access to. </p>
<p>it is worth your while to work hard and get into Harvard so you can make a decent living and then buy a mercedes if you want, but you can’t just go around people asking for money for something that wont add a meaning to your life. don’t compare harvard to a mecredes. please.</p>
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<p>Why don’t you ask Harvard to lower it’s sticker price to $10,000 so “85% of average salaried, disgusting, loser American slackers” can afford? So nobody need to subsidize anyone.</p>
<p>Well, I have to say that shortcut is a pretty funny caricature – I just can’t tell whether the caricature is intentional. I have nothing positive to say about his confused idea that people who earn $80K are slackers.</p>
<p>But, there is something in his proposal. At the moment, college tuition/financial aid together function like a highly progressive tax that is born by people making over $200K. And, it rewards people who are profligate spenders. You actually get more aid if you’ve bought fancy cars and have a nicer house than if you saved. Why does it make sense as social policy to tack a progressive tuition tax on top of a progressive Federal income tax on top of a progressive state income tax on top of the hidden progressive taxes of disappearing deductions and AMT? The latter basically attacks the upper middle class but fades away as you get richer. It’s by no means obvious that the layers of progressivity by private players make sense on top of the progressive taxes already levied by the governmental layers.</p>
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<p>Who’s idiotic and ■■■■■■■■ here?
<p>2) The kid from an immigrant family is ranked #10 in the class and is in Harvard for a free need based ride. By the way, the kid’s family owns a restaurant, two Mercedes and reports extremely low income.</p>
<p>Fair?</p>
<p>^ ^ In fact, Harvard asks about the cars that a family owns on the CSS Profile. They’re not as dumb as you make them out to be. That kid would not be going for free.</p>
<p>Shawbridge, well said, Bravo!!!
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<p>If what you said was true, I would not have wasted my time posting here. If Harvard has $174 million finaid to give away like they did this year, they should lower the sticker price to $10,000 for everyone. They’ll get these brightest kids who go to state flagships and have the most amazing student body.</p>
<p>Seems like you’re wasting a lot of time. Why not call them with your suggestion?</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is when one gets the need-based scholarship from Harvard, the money is actually coming from alumni who are sponsoring those who are unable to afford it since they want to diversify the campus, or else who am I writing letters to when we have Thank-a-thons here at the college.
Also, why should one be prevented to going to a school that fits their academic need when the funds are available. After all, some of the most clever people I know here are those getting large amounts from financial aid.
With that said, the college would then start accepting more applicants that simply got in by throwing money at the system and destroy the academic environment that the college is well known for.</p>
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<p>I called IRS to lower my taxes in favor of the flat tax. I’m still waiting to see that happens. I am not wasting my time here because you are reading this thread and I am making my point: I want everyone to pay the same sticker price for Harvard education. I do not want to subsidize anyone. If Harvard’s $54k tuition is too high for 85% slacker American, then it should be lowered to $10,000 for everyone.</p>
<p>This year Harvard’s total finaid is 174 mil. This amount is close enough to lower the tuition to $10k for every enrolled student.</p>
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<p>I totally agree with the message above (hpa’s). Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion…including Harvard. You seemed to have responded to ever other person’s response except hpa’s. Perhaps you have conceded to this poster’s point? </p>
<p>Don’t take out your anger on “85% slacker Americans”. Lower and middle income Americans should be the ones complaining since they do not get paid enough for all the hard work they do. These include the same teachers who probably educated you, the police men that protected you, and the the nurse who changed your grandpa’s stinky diapers every few hours and will probably change yours in the future…I would hardly call these guys slackers, but then that’s my opinion. Let’s ask Harvard what it thinks…</p>
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<p>There are also many clever people who choose to go to state flagships because they do not feel wealthy enough to pay the $54k sticker price based on $210k income.</p>
<p>By the way, the kids who go to state flagships worked harder and ranked higher than the kids who got free rides at Harvard. Shame!</p>
<p>shortcut you are ignoring one fact why the cost is different for those who earn different saluries:</p>
<p>HARVARD WANTS ITS EDUCATION TO BE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN ADMITTED!</p>
<p>How will Harvard make itself available when suddenly half of their admitted class can’t attend because of cost?</p>
<p>So Harvard will do anything to help poor families as they will do little to those who earn much more and have the possiblity to contribute. And remember, not all are slackers. Some people other like people with your beliefs, work because they like their job not because they make alot of money from it. Don’t try to be stupid and ignorant.</p>
<p>Here’s something to get a few people upset: perhaps full paying students should get first choices on things such as dorm rooms.</p>
<p>Dorm rooms are of the least of my worries, personally (I am a financial aid student). I’m just happy I’m at Harvard.</p>
<p>So yeah, DocT, I’ll just find a full paying student and be extremely nice to him/her…and be blockmates! Lol…</p>
<p>But on a serious note, even that proposal seems kind of off…</p>
<p>Everyone, please don’t get upset or respond to the ignorance of shortcut. They are obviously trying to get attention. If they really did make over $200,000 they wouldn’t be on here spewing ignorance like this. Just ignore them and think to yourself… How sad to be them :)</p>
<p>Shortcut was born 100 years too late.</p>
<p>The reason Harvard subsidizes is to avoid a population of nothing but shortcuts.</p>