<p>The number of admits is lower by a third in my area, despite an increase in inquires. Looks like they were being more selective this year with the larger than expected freshman class last year.</p>
<p>Are you guys seeing the same thing in your areas?</p>
<p>Not really. It's pretty normal from my viewpoint, but we still see some people that get some unexpected results.</p>
<p>My school sent nearly 40 kids to umich last year, we only have 30 this year.</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>The "quality" distribution of applicants was different this year--a higher number of top-calibre students in the applicant pool.</p>
<p>It gets harder from year to year...except 2004 because Michigan had a new application form and a new admissions system. But with the exception of 2004, there is been a steady drop in the % accepted and a steady rise in the % of students graduating among the top 10% of their class and mean SATs.</p>
<p>its not harder at umich, its just harder in general at almost any uni. in america cause we are kids of babyboom generation or whatever .. just more people applying and the whole process getting blown out of proportions... gotta start walking to canada...</p>
<p>My D is an 11th grader graduating HS this July who had applied to UM very late and just recieved an admission packet for the Comprehensive Studies Program in LSA. It reads like it's some sort of program for kids who need a little extra help. D's GPA, ACT etc is very good. Anybody know about the CSP? Thanks!</p>
<p>not hard...................i dont think it's hard for an out of state student, they want our $$$$$$$ :)</p>
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<p>Generally speaking, you need better qualifications to get in as an out-of-state student than you do as an in-state student. There's not a vast difference, but a student at the margins would have a better chance if he or she was a state resident.</p>
<p>ThomYorke,
U-M is looking for out-of-state talents, not out-of-state $$$. Btw, most of the students from my areas are paying out-of-state tuitions.</p>
<p>I'm out of state and I was definitely on the margins. 1180 SAT, 28 ACT, 3.65 GPA, r u kidding me lol?. Somethin must have helped.</p>
<p>I think UM is very aware of the amount of OOS tuition it needs to have to make the books balance. It is a very tuition dependent school as state funding has gone flat.</p>
<p>Tuition dependent, sort of, but keep in mind Michigan also has a decent endowment and a boatload of research money flowing in. Michigan likes OOS students because they enhance the national stature of the school. They can be more selective with those additional applications, and it helps promote a good stream of future apps too. OOS aren't just about the moolah.</p>
<p>All true but the largest single revenue item is tuition at $675 Million. State funding is $320 Million and income from endowments is only $115 Million. Research spending is about $645 Million but they only can skim about $156 Million from that to use for other areas. I'd estimate only about $250 Million of the tuition is from instate leaving over $400,000,000 from OOS. That's a nice piece of change.</p>
<p>Actually Barrons, Michigan makes as much money from out of state students as it does from state funding ($350 million). So I would agree with Hoedown that Michigan is not tuition dependent. When you consider that Michigan costs $4 billion to run, the $1 Billion it gets from tuition (in-staters included) and state funding is practically insignificant. The hospital finances itself, Football finances the entire athletics program and research is almost entirely funded by the federal government and private companies. Obviously, Michigan benefits from tuition, but no more than most elite universities, be it Chicago or Penn or Columbia.</p>
<p>Remember that you've got graduate tuition in there, too, particularly the very expensive professional schools. The med school. The law school. The business school. </p>
<p>If you're talking about the share of GF dollars that comes from undergraduate nonresident tuition, which is what I think was being implied here, it's not as impressive as you'd think. </p>
<p>Is it nice money to have? Yes. But I felt that ThomYorke really overtstated things. Nonresident undergrads aren't a big cash cow for us.</p>
<p>Ecellent point Hoedown. The 350 out of state Medical school students, 700 out of state law school students and 500 out of state MBA students make a huge contribution to the revenues raised by out of state students.</p>