<p>Fasinro-YOU are the op. This is commonly used on CC (College Confidential) as the reference to the starter of the thread.</p>
<p>Still think you need to reconsider. It does not come across that you actually like or respect Cornell.</p>
<p>Failboat- haha…that actually gave me a great laugh. Thx for lightening up the mood abit</p>
<p>To: morrismm</p>
<p>Thanks for the info. but what can i say, we’re all entitled to our own opinions. </p>
<p>Doesn’t get any simpler than that does it.</p>
<p>This is one of the most ridiculous threads I’ve seen on CC. One of those things where you’d really like to see the winner on the other side of the screen.</p>
<p>Malan89, did you actually take the time to read the whole thread?</p>
<p>Just asking?</p>
<p>I dunno, I mention Cornell University to the average joe and they’re just like “ooh [smart kid]”</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone here is actually saying that Cornell is ‘academically’ weak.</p>
<p>This has nothing to with the academic capabilities of the students at Cornell. (just to clear things up)</p>
<p>Speaking of coincidences, i was just talking to a couple people and they were like, “so how’s senior year going”, and i said," it’s pretty cool", “just trying to get into college, i tired of the stuff i’m doing now”.</p>
<p>And she was like oh, “what school do you wanna go to again” and i said “Cornell” and everyone in the room proceeded to say oooooooo Corneeeeeeeeeeelll! lool!</p>
<p>“In terms of Financial Endowment?..is that how shows an institutions total value? Well, ok.”</p>
<p>Seriously? Of course it is! Financial endowment is what allows Cornell and other universities to do, well, everything! From, uh, NOT cutting those programs that apparently make Cornell a “joke,” to allowing the university to hire amazing professors, fund clubs and other student events, speakers etc.</p>
<p>I just can’t even begin to fathom what about Cornell makes you think that it in any way has a “joke” of a reputation. It’s just absurd. Are you for real?</p>
<p>As you can see, i typed alot of words today and i’m actually done with trying to explain stuff, for now that is.</p>
<p>I might later, but now, naaa.</p>
<p>So my response to you gosnia is: ok.</p>
<p>Cornell rhymes will smell.</p>
<p>Not really.</p>
<p>I mean,the last syllables do but it rhymes more with Danielle or Motel or something. lol :)</p>
<p>Here’s something interesting: there’s an edit tool. A tool which I noticed you used for only somethings and not others, with the rationale that nobody is without sin. Well, that may be true, but the edit button is a savior. Also, if you don’t feel like engaging in conversation, don’t! Don’t write out a comment explaining that you don’t feel like commenting.
You also have not explained your “first-hand knowledge/experience” that you disputed; instead, you kind of brushed that off and went on to the next subject.
LOL @ the greek system at cornell critique. Do you really think that Cornell is unique in under-age inebriation? MIT had a huge thing with a kid at a frat party dying from too much alcohol consumption. I guess they just accept so many idiots…
There are going to be idiots at every school, just because it’s recent and stuck in your mind doesn’t mean that it’s an accurate picture of the rest of the university’s greek life. </p>
<p>Moreover, the point about the murder at yale is to show how recent downfalls within a university aren’t indicative of the university as a whole. </p>
<p>Something interested I noticed is the way you write things as if they are put into stone and can’t be fixed. For instance, the whole thing about Harvard and the “overwhelming majority of ignorance…” and then you proceed to explain that you wen’t a little overboard. You could have just hit backspace, or maybe you wanted us to read the comments and your little explanation would condone your words? Either way, it makes the after-comment pointless and null, since you could have easily fixed it. </p>
<p>And what evidence do you have that a majority of ignorant people reside in ithaca? You also added “/minority” well that is the polar opposite, so what’s your point? What blog did you read that convinced you so thoroughly of the ignorance at Cornell? </p>
<p>Finally, I noticed that you qualified your critique of cornell with “educational system”; so how does greek life play a part? Wrong emails? These aren’t part of the educational system. One has to do with extra-curricular, non-academic, activities, and the other, an admissions flaw that was fixed in time. </p>
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^If cornell accepts you then i’m forced to share the same reservations. but i don’t mean any of this personally. =)</p>
<p>No matter how great of an institution is, such as Cornell, there are going to be problems and issues. Not every department is top, not every student is cheerful or intellectual power house (my daughter isn’t, she is into pop culture, Victoria Secret fashion show is greatly anticipated by her), not every professor is brilliant or caring. If you think once you get into one of those top schools then your life will be perfect, or the institution is perfect, then you will be very disappointed. </p>
<p>From few posts you have written, you seem very negative about “things” in general - school, people… It is not a good way of going through life. There is always something positive one could find about anything. I told my daughter that there is no IT school for anyone. They are all pretty much the same. They are all made up of people. It is really what you want to make of it. We could all list 10 negative things about Cornell, but I bet you we could probably list 100 positive things about Cornell faster, including the Greek life. Same thing could be said about HYPS, or any other school.</p>
<p>I would suggest for you to stop looking for reasons not going to Cornell, instead start to find reasons to go, if that’s what you want.</p>
<p>I am so tired of these young kids that have no clue what Cornell is all about. Have you even visited? Try speaking to people that do attend, and then tell us what a joke it is. You should go back to doing your homework.</p>
<p>First off, alcohol makes the smartest person do stupid things. If you think Cornell is the only school that is like this, you are out of your mind. The movie Animal House was based off of Dartmouth’s Greek system. Yes, there are some people at Cornell that can be classified as not too intelligent; once again, this is not limited to Cornell. The amount of intelligent people shadows this number by far.</p>
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<p>Yes, I completely agree, arrogant and overly ambitious people view Cornell as somewhat of a joke, but to everyone else who aren’t as arrogant nor snobby, Cornell is a fine school, and hell, if going to Cornell means that I won’t become one of your types of people, then Dear Lord sign me up today!</p>
<p>Cornell is one of the very best universities in the country and anyone who gets an opportunity to attend Cornell should be thanking his or her lucky stars. Period. I don’t understand why some people are putting up these crazy posts. Please leave your computer and do something fun. Go watch Avatar or something.</p>
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<p>As someone in the real world who interacts regularly with those “arrogant and overly ambitious people”, I can assure you they do not look down on Cornell or someone who went to Cornell. Sad to say, but you have to watch bringing it up in casual conversation for the same reasons people don’t mention Harvard and its peers. People think you’re bragging, even though you may well not be. Though mentioning it does play well with getting the women who run in those circles. :)</p>
<p>What you’re going to realize when you get into the real world is that people go to different schools for different reasons and you’ll find brilliant people who went to mediocre schools and mediocre people who went to brilliant schools. Even when judging someone by the school they went to, you’ll be hard-pressed to find someone treat anyone differently who went to University of Michigan or Harvard because you realize just how individual each experience is.</p>
<p>To the OP - I’d suggest you relax. There are a number of schools that are either genuinely improving or gaming the system to be at a higher level than they otherwise might. Cornell isn’t so much slipping as it is just not making a big leap. If you just look at USNWR as your barometer, it’s held out in the 10-15 range for decades with a few bursts upward. </p>
<p>In the end, this recession could be very good for the school. There are some programs that simply aren’t top notch and have needed to be cut for some time. A leaner, meaner Cornell with a more coherent structure to its programs is not inherently a bad thing and could position it to make a run in the future by having fewer but stronger programs.</p>
<p>btw - “decrement”? that’s a new one.</p>
<p>^^good post applejack.</p>
<p>To: ChaoticOrder</p>
<p>lol…I would’ve edited my posts but the edit ‘tool’ disappeared. As i have discovered, you can only edit between certain intervals. When i do see mistakes, I edit them, you get it; because that’s what’s it meant for, but if i’m not fortunate enough to be able to be available to edit my posts then what exactly do you want me to do?</p>
<p>Write another one to correct that?..Just Wondering. </p>
<p>Not sure if there was anything subliminal in “the edit button is a savior” but …suuure!</p>
<p>And are you commanding me to not write when i do not feel like engaging in conversations or was that advice?</p>
<p>When did i ever say i had first hand knowledge of anything? Care to explain? If you didn’t understand a post then you should try rereading it. Which is something i do rather well (just throwing that out there).</p>
<p>I’m not sure if you actually read the whole thing, but you really should try.</p>
<p>Cornell is in no way the only college to have a problem with underage drinking. But if those are the only things that you can (without research) hold against Yale and MIT, then Cornell is clearly ‘unique’.</p>
<p>And of course, no act is indicative of a college as a whole. It can also be argued that Cornell’s brilliant students as well as their great programs aren’t indicative of how much their professors lack base knowledge also, how their students lack morals as well.</p>
<p>Now before you go crazy on me, that was just an example, if you didn’t realize it. (Since i have to explain everything i write). That’s in no way absolutely true, to the best of my knowledge. :)</p>
<p>“Something interested I noticed is the way you write things as if they are put into stone and can’t be fixed. For instance, the whole thing about Harvard and the “overwhelming majority of ignorance…” and then you proceed to explain that you wen’t a little overboard. You could have just hit backspace, or maybe you wanted us to read the comments and your little explanation would condone your words? Either way, it makes the after-comment pointless and null, since you could have easily fixed it.”</p>
<p>Not sure if you mean my comment of "I went a little overboard was ‘nullified’ but care to explain? i’m kinda guessing that was what i wanted to achieve by writing my little explanation after the ‘Harvard’ and ‘Overwhelming majority’ thing right? That ‘it’ should be disregarded.</p>
<p>“And what evidence do you have that a majority of ignorant people reside in ithaca? You also added “/minority” well that is the polar opposite, so what’s your point? What blog did you read that convinced you so thoroughly of the ignorance at Cornell?”</p>
<p>haha…you really really should read before you write. Try and get a bit of what was said before, then post. As i said and quote " Also, when i said Ithaca, you seem to not have caught my indirect reference to Cornell, but that’s a done issue as I didn’t actually mean the statement. " (As i said several times). If you refer to page 2, fourth post. </p>
<p>" Finally, I noticed that you qualified your critique of cornell with “educational system”; so how does greek life play a part? Wrong emails? These aren’t part of the educational system. One has to do with extra-curricular, non-academic, activities, and the other, an admissions flaw that was fixed in time. "</p>
<p>Firstly, you might not have noticed but i also wrote “also” to separate the greek system. If you would refer back to page 1 (first post). But we all know it’s not part of the educational system right? lool.</p>
<p>And please, you have to explain to me.</p>
<p>How did i ‘qualify’ my critique of Cornell with ‘educational system’ because im truly dumbfounded.</p>
<p>" ^If cornell accepts you then i’m forced to share the same reservations. but i don’t mean any of this personally. =) " </p>
<p>You could’ve just said you thought i was ignorant. No need to beat around the bushes. :)</p>
<p>You can’t be satisfied with everything in life, fact or fiction. Just kinda wondered where you drew conclusions from since an ignorant individual is one who lack knowledge about a base subject, something or someone, and decides to conclude. :)</p>
<p>To: Oldfort</p>
<p>Honestly, i understand what your saying. Although you didn’t read all my posts, you similarly say, as i said, “It is actually what one makes out of it”. And i also understand that not everyone is some intellectual powerhouse. I’m sure you daughter is great; I myself, love fashion and designs and pop culture, most if not all types of music, rap, rock, alternative etc. and i love sports.</p>
<p>" From few posts you have written, you seem very negative about “things” in general - school, people…"</p>
<p>If i came across that way, then i totally didn’t intend to. Apologies to all who think i do have properties of an electron. (lol…just kinda fell in the moment).</p>
<p>But really, very sorry.</p>
<p>" We could all list 10 negative things about Cornell, but I bet you we could probably list 100 positive things about Cornell faster, including the Greek life. Same thing could be said about HYPS, or any other school. "</p>
<p>Great point, I guess it’s because i love Cornell so much and just felt the need to question it’s current status. Kinda like tough love if you ask me :)</p>
<p>" I would suggest for you to stop looking for reasons not going to Cornell, instead start to find reasons to go, if that’s what you want. "</p>
<p>Sure will!..(your a great person by the way!)</p>
<p>To: momma-three</p>
<p>I really don’t know what to say to you. Um, …ok. Sorry if i sound arrogant and all but you didn’t even bother to see what argument i’ve put up, what i defended myself against, or points that traveled across the medium. </p>
<p>Yes, I am a young kid, but was that used to try to undermine my knowledge about Cornell. Who says i haven’t been on campus or talked to people there?</p>
<p>I sound like that bad guy here but maybe i will go back to my homework, but i haven’t had school for a week since i finished my mid-terms. ( I refrain from saying my grades).</p>
<p>To: CornellPerson</p>
<p>" First off, alcohol makes the smartest person do stupid things. If you think Cornell is the only school that is like this, you are out of your mind. The movie Animal House was based off of Dartmouth’s Greek system. Yes, there are some people at Cornell that can be classified as not too intelligent; once again, this is not limited to Cornell. The amount of intelligent people shadows this number by far. "</p>
<p>Would someone, anyone please tell where I ever said Cornell is the only school that has/had issues with alcohol.</p>
<p>And i also do understand that the amount of intelligent people do overshadow that amount of not so intelligent. It’s Cornell isn’t it.</p>
<p>To: failboat</p>
<p>" Yes, I completely agree, arrogant and overly ambitious people view Cornell as somewhat of a joke, but to everyone else who aren’t as arrogant nor snobby, Cornell is a fine school, and hell, if going to Cornell means that I won’t become one of your types of people, then Dear Lord sign me up today! "</p>
<p>I don’t know if it was intentional but who exactly were you referring to when you said “your type of people”. That was not attacking anyone by the way. Just wondering.</p>
<p>To: cornellrock92</p>
<p>I understand, Cornell rocks. I completely agree. But what exactly is crazy about this/these post/s? Just educate me on what ‘you’ feel is or can be interpreted as ‘crazy’ here. (No pun intended)</p>
<p>To: applejack</p>
<p>" To the OP - I’d suggest you relax. There are a number of schools that are either genuinely improving or gaming the system to be at a higher level than they otherwise might. Cornell isn’t so much slipping as it is just not making a big leap. If you just look at USNWR as your barometer, it’s held out in the 10-15 range for decades with a few bursts upward.</p>
<p>In the end, this recession could be very good for the school. There are some programs that simply aren’t top notch and have needed to be cut for some time. A leaner, meaner Cornell with a more coherent structure to its programs is not inherently a bad thing and could position it to make a run in the future by having fewer but stronger programs.</p>
<p>btw - “decrement”? that’s a new one. "</p>
<p>You suggest i relax?..hmm. I don’t mean to sound disrespectful but you must think i’m trying to be ‘obnoxious’ by writing all this, or am i wrong?</p>
<p>Well, just to clear things up, i’m not. In all honestly, i really love Cornell. I’m not trying to be an d*** in any way but rather trying to reveal flaws that, although inevitable, are fixable.</p>
<p>Very good point about the recession/program thing. But it’s all a ‘could’.A chance. We’re not sure that it ‘will’ be a good thing for the college as much as we can see that it has already had a not so positive spin on it.</p>
<p>and yeah, decrement: Noun, the act of decreasing.</p>
<p>Finally: Has no one on this Forum ever heard of Constructive Criticism?</p>
<p>“Whatever the intentions, it is an inflammatory ■■■■■ post.”</p>
<p>No kidding, posting overtly insulting and obviously offensive garbage like this on a university’s own sub-forum.</p>
<p>What happened to #4? and # 8?</p>
<p>Next time, really guys, just use “Report Problem Post” as obviously offensive, and deliberately provoking and offending,■■■■■- I mean everyone report it, one report often won’t do it- and then do not respond, at all.</p>