Is it Mandatory to Report Community College Courses on Apps?

Applying to College
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<p>Over the summer I took a class at my local CC and received a pretty crappy grade (the teacher couldn't teach, but I have to place some blame on myself in all fairness).</p>

<p>On my CC's website it states that "all courses will appear on your permanent record and must be reported to any other college or university to which you apply."</p>

<p>This is all fine and dandy, but I don't see how this policy is enforceable. I'm not taking this course for high school credit, so it won't show on my HS transcript, and I supposedly have to take the initiative to send my CC transcript to the "other [colleges] to which [I will] apply."</p>

<p>Now suppose I take a calculated risk in not doing this. Is it probable that admissions officers will find out? How severe would the consequence be? Has anyone experienced a similar predicament before? Or am I just being paranoid?</p>

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<p>Unless your CC course was part of a required curriculum for HS you are
under no obligation to report.</p>

<p>Assuming you have a good realtionship, check with your HS GC.</p>

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<p>yes, you must show all courses and intentionally not including them would be considered misrepresentation and grounds for having your admissions rescinded.</p>

<p>BTW, should you decide to apply to Law School, you will have to supply transcripts from all schools even if you received high school credit.</p>

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<p>Yes, you must report the class. The Common App specifically asks for all colleges you have attended, the courses you took and the grades you got. You then must certify that you have answered all questions on the application truthfully and completely. Not reporting this course is, as sybbie stated, misrepresentation if not fraud.</p>

<p>If you don't think that failing to report the class is a big deal, just search these boards for the threads about Marilee Jones, former dean of admissions at MIT.</p>

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<p>^an entire degree isn't the same thing as one class.</p>

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<p>Agreeing with Chedva here, a typical college application asks the applicant to submit transcripts from ALL secondary and postsecondary schools at which the applicant has taken classes. For my son, about to be an eleventh grader, that has already added up to SIX external transcripts as part of his "homeschooling" program. You just deal with it, and submit all transcripts from all previous studies at the high school or higher level. The college admission officers expect complete information, and they know what to do with it.</p>

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<p>The second part of post#4 sounds slippery-slope-ish to me.</p>

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<p>OK, forget the "slippery slope." All by itself, it's a significant omission, and your signature on the form is a lie. Therefore, if a college does find out, it is perfectly legitimate for them to wonder what else the student lied about. And it is under no obligation to investigate; it can summarily dismiss the student. And don't think that this dismissal will remain private.</p>

<p>Yes, it has happened. Is it worth it to risk that it happens to you?</p>

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<p>what about classes that are signed up for through a CC but aren't actually taught there, like the online ones from a place like "Ed2Go" or others. Is that still considered a college course and should be reported?</p>

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<p>does this apply to me if i do bad in an NYU course through the NYU precollege program?</p>

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<p>Yes, you must submit a transcript from the NYU pre-college program regardless of the grade you received.</p>

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<p>Read your college application and its instructions. You will be expected to submit transcripts from all high schools, and transcripts from all colleges, unless you are applying to a college whose admission office is run by chumps. Please link to any admission form posted online that doesn't expect applicants to submit transcripts from all their previous secondary and postsecondary courses.</p>

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<p>lol, nvm, i ended up getting an A in the course XP</p>

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<p>Thanks to all who replied!</p>

<p>I still would like to know how one would get caught omitting such courses, since records are "protected by the Federal Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)," essentially a nondisclosure clause. It seems somewhat off that my CC would mention that along with requiring the sending of transcripts.</p>

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<p>FERPA specifically excludes the treatment records of students in higher education from its definition of educational records. It also excludes employees of an educational institution if they are not students.</p>

<p>according to FERPA</p>

<p>
[quote]
Generally, schools must have written permission from the parent or eligible student in order to release any information from a student's education record. **However, FERPA allows schools to disclose those records, without consent, to the following parties or under the following conditions (34 CFR § 99.31):</p>

<p>School officials with legitimate educational interest;</p>

<p>Other schools to which a student is transferring;</p>

<p>Specified officials for audit or evaluation purposes;</p>

<p>Appropriate parties in connection with financial aid to a student;</p>

<p>Organizations conducting certain studies for or on behalf of the school;</p>

<p>Accrediting organizations;</p>

<p>To comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena; </p>

<p>Appropriate officials in cases of health and safety emergencies; and</p>

<p>State and local authorities, within a juvenile justice system, pursuant to specific State law.</p>

<p>Schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" information such as a student's name, address, telephone number, date and place of birth, honors and awards, and dates of attendance. </p>

<p>Family</a> Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)
**</p>

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<p>Education records may be disclosed without consent to officials of another school at which a student seeks or intends to enroll.</p>

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<p>from FERPA's FAQs...</p>

<p>
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7. What if my child is a minor and he or she is taking classes at a local college while still in high school - do I have rights?</p>

<p>If a student is attending a postsecondary institution - at any age - the rights under FERPA have transferred to the student. However, in a situation where a student is enrolled in both a high school and a postsecondary institution, the two schools may exchange information on that student. If the student is under 18, the parents still retain the rights under FERPA at the high school and may inspect and review any records sent by the postsecondary institution to the high school.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/faq.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/faq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>I am certain there is some threatening language out there about misrepresenting yourself in your application. That nonsense aside, I wouldn't think twice about excluding something like that or even requesting that the community college alter the grade to pass/fail. If you do decide to exclude it, as any reasonable human being would- make sure your letters of recommendation don't include anything about how ambitious you were that you took classes at the local community college.</p>

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<p>I think that not including it is honestly dishonest.</p>

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<p>Mainly out of concern for school after undergrad: I totally neglected to submit a transcript from my previous secondary school in Singapore and also because secondary school begins at seventh grade in Singapore. I'm preparing to renounce all legal ties with Singapore to avoid being drafted in the middle of my college career. I had like half a year in that school (two years total) that overlapped with ninth grade. Is getting that transcript critical after undergrad?</p>

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<p>^
I don't think so.</p>

<p>My main concern is those who go to an grade-inflated high school or are just plain lazy or unprepared, and then take a course somewhere and don't do well. Wouldn't we just love to hide bad high school grades? It's the same thing. </p>

<p>I mean if you made an "A" in Cake-making 101 I probably wouldn't have it sent.</p>