Is it really that hard to get into the UC's from out of state?

<p>no, sorry</p>

<p>cicero:</p>

<p>You can also take a course at a community college. An orchestra/band course, or even an art history course will work, as will ceramics.</p>

<p>Is it really that big a deal if you don't have it? I find it to be a stupid requirement.</p>

<p>It maybe "stupid" to you, but the state of Texas just adopted something similar. If you do not complete the VAPA course, you can also become eligible for admission by testing alone -- you need to average 710 on each of the five tests.</p>

<p>Me finding it stupid aside, is it a big deal to not have it if you are oss?</p>

<p>Yes, it's a REQURIEMENT, just like Alg II and four years of English.</p>

<p>Well are you automatically thrown out of the pool if you have great test scores and solid above average activities? Cause I'd view that as retardation. If you are 2250+ for SATs and SAT IIs and you have a multitude of AP classes, why should such a petty requirement ruin admissions chances?</p>

<p>Quit complaining about it and move on. If you really want to get into UCB, then take those classes outside of highschool like said earlier, or call them if you really care. </p>

<p>Jesus, I swear to god some of the people here are so selfish. Just because you think you're smart doesn't mean the college you want can let you in "just this one time" for whatever reason. There are a lot of kids who apply both instate and OOS and actually DO have those credits, so they can't just let someone in who doesn't have all the credits, it's just not good business to condone.</p>

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<p>Actually, if you are a 2250+ and 700's on subject tests, you CAN qualify for admissions by testing alone, which is how some OOS'ers and homeschoolers become eligible. It requires an average of 710 on all five tests.</p>

<p>starkudo: I'm not whining, I'm just saying that its a retarded requirement and asking if there is any way around it, to which I finally have an answer (which is yes....). You really think that I have the time to go and take a retarded class that I'm going to hate going to for an entire year? No, so I wanted to know if there was a way to get around that, which there is.</p>