Is it Worth it?

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Well I dont know what culture you're living in, but many people at my school have never done those things.

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<p>I live in a middle class city in a suburb of Detroit. A normal culture in America. I was simply speaking from experience. I honestly don't know anybody who has never had a SIP of alcohol, including a sip of wine at Mass or a sip of wine or beer at a family dinner or something.</p>

<p>Haha I love it when people believe all CC-like students study all day. Yes, I have a life, and I'm sure 90% others on here do too. Maybe we focus more on our education, but I say working hard for four years and still going to the normal prom, ball, and some occasional parties here and there is well worth it, don't you think?</p>

<p>LOL, i'm a CCer, and here's my profile:</p>

<p>-15 years old
-Accepted into University of Washington and UW Honors Program (harder to get into than Cornell in all ways... don't argue)
-Sophomore in High school
-5 AP Classes (Biology, Physics, Chemistry, World History, Calculus)
-3.9+ GPA UW
-Officer of various clubs, founder/president of one... 200 hours
- Wears prepped-out gangsta bling (fitted dolla hat, chain necklace, Nike AirMax, ... the works)
- Had 3 girls in my life... striving to get another one by the end of this year
- Does crazy **** with friends
-Bikes, fishes, hikes, camps, backpacks.
-PARTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (although i can't say i like all the parties i go to, there was one where my friend took me to, and everybody was white, and i was the only asian... that's diversity for ya)
- When i get interested into something, i eventually get obssesed with it. It keeps my life interesting.
-My crazy friends and i always pull of pranks in the neighborhood... not all of them legal... :) :) :)
- yes... i have kissed a girl (outside my family you fckin losers with sick minds) :). i've done more than that to her... lol</p>

<p>So you see, i am a CCer, and yes, i have a life.</p>

<p>For those of you who believe their life is boring with all that studying and stuff... go get a girl.</p>

<p>and maintain a good relationship... don't break up with her in like a month. Get to the point where you can say whatever, act whatever, and do whatever to her. Up to that point of trust.</p>

<p>piccolojunior: Doing any of those 3 things only makes you imperfect if you look at them as immoral. I don't. You do. The difference is, you saying that you have some kind of superiority over me because you haven't done something you regard as immoral (but which I, and many other people don't) isn't you keeping it real or telling the truth, it's you being stupid and assuming that your value judgments apply to anyone else. </p>

<p>Hint: they don't.</p>

<p>Anyways, that done, moving back on to the topic of the thread - it's entirely possible to be incredibly studious and still have a great social life. I go to tons of parties and hang out with lots of people, but on the other hand I might not be regarded as studious so much as smart enough to be efficient in my work. ;) That said though, I know at least one guy who works extremely hard, but then parties just as hard. Bad social life? I don't think so.</p>

<p>without girls i don't know where i'd be</p>

<p>1of42: It's not about morality, it's about stupidity (i.e., how you decide to **** up your health and for drugs/alcohol, trouble with the law) just to have a "social life."</p>

<p>So what if I don't go to parties? I still make people laugh their asses off with my great Borat voice as well as my tendency to shout out "Lehberal" ("liberal" but with an accent) when the occassion fits (i.e., something crappy just happened or my friends and I see someone else saying or doing something promiscuous). I still talk to most of my high school classmates at the local gym, and I see movies with my friends. All that fun without any "hard partying." If that's not "social enough" for ya, then just kys.</p>

<p>gypsy: That's because you live in detroit...enough said LOL!</p>

<p>BTW, I don't go to church since I am a Deist. That's probably the most amazing part; that I agree with those religious conservatives to an extent about "excessive partying" but reject the idea of an intervening God. Yes, I have never had a sip of alcohol. If it smells like ****, what makes you think I would taste it? LOL</p>

<p>Uhm, I don't live IN Detroit anymore. Thank you. I live about 20 mins away from it. And I just asked. But I still don't know how it makes you superior.</p>

<p>Oh, it's not about morality, is it? Really?</p>

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<p>...wait, do I see the word moral in there? Hmm, guess I do. Well, it couldn't have been you who wrote that... oh wait, it was. Moving on.</p>

<p>Could you make any more stupid implications in one post? I don't "decide to **** up my health" - because I drink in moderation, and practice safe sex. Neither do I use drugs very often at all - though even if I did, the drug that I have used on ocassion (pot, not really enamored of anything harder) has not been reliably shown to cause major long term health problems.</p>

<p>Neither do I do these things "just to have a 'social life'". Artful use of the quotes around social life by the way, as if you're implying that I don't actually have one. I drink because I like the taste of many of the drinks that contain alcohol (especially beer... yum), and because I like the effect that alcohol has on me, in the context of a party. I don't need it to enjoy myself, but it's fun.</p>

<p>Now, as for your misguided comment about trouble with the law. I live in Canada. There are places here where it is perfectly legal for me to drink (and it's legal to have sex everywhere, so I can only assume you weren't referring to that), and I have been to those places several times. I've also been to Europe, where the drinking age is very low, and also have been to Holland, where certain drugs aren't illegal.</p>

<p>Basing your morals off the law of the land is a crappy idea, in my opinion. Have a spine, make your own mind up about these ideas. And once you have, then don't use the law as some kind of support for your ideas (especially since not everyone is subject to the same laws you are).</p>

<p>Your next paragraph didn't make any sense, since I never derided your "social life" (see, I can quote things too).</p>

<p>To go on a slightly different tack here: have you ever used caffeine? (I'm assuming the answer is yes, even if you say it's not, because caffeine is too pervasive, and is a component of too many foods/drinks, for you to not have had it at least once) That's a drug too. Did you know that? Does that make you an imperfect abstainer? Does having used caffeine make you immoral?</p>

<p>I hope this has pointed out to you what your folly has been here. Your problem is, you made your own moral judgment, and then went and told others that it applied to them, and that they were (by some kind of objective measure) not as perfect as you, the "perfect abstainer". The whole thing is patent bull. Firstly, moral jugments are relative to many things, and second, you're not an objective observer. Both of these things disqualify your opinion. </p>

<p>Have a good day.</p>

<p>piccolo let me know if you want some aloe with that burn.</p>

<p>that 15 year old kid's post is so funny. I WEAR GANGSTA **** IM BALLIN NIKE AIRMAXX CHECK ME OUT</p>

<p>this kid must be serious he does crazy "****" with his friends</p>

<p>Lmao 1of42, that last post made my day =].</p>

<p>The reason I don't have a social life is not because I'm too occupied with school; the reason I don't have a social life is because I can't drive and my parents are too lazy to bring me anywhere.</p>

<p>When it's not school, it's tennis or training for me.. I've never been to a party.</p>

<p>Lol... my post is kinda funny looking back at it now. But you get my point... LIFE is good.</p>