Is JHU really that tough?

<p>I hope to goto Harvard or Yale grad school after undergrad. Is JHU really as hard as the people say it is. I really don't want to go there and have a bad gpa. Like what is the typical or average gpa there, specifically for humanities?</p>

<p>3.5 for science and arts and 3.4 for engineering i think...i may be wrong a little</p>

<p>A 3.5? Really? B/c that's higher than schools that are known for inflation (cough, Harvard, cough).</p>

<p>i remember reading that off somewhere but the source could have been outdated</p>

<p>nvm...i think it is very outdated info =/...can;t remember where i saw that</p>

<p>lol ignore outdated info...it doesn;t even exist..O.o unconscious desire of optimism caused it =D</p>

<p>Carnegie111:
I just hope you have used the search functions, because your question has been answered numerous times in past threads. Just a prediction -- but expect a number of the current JHU students to post that the concept of grade deflation is not true at Hopkins (i.e. scorp) and that the myths of JHU being too tough is not accurate. You probably will also get some others who have no idea about JHU, posting that all the myths of it being impossible to get good grades as true.</p>

<p>My suggestion ... why are you so worried about GPA in college as a high school student? You should really be considering what schools are the right fit for you. What schools provide the right academic challenge, what schools have the type of students you want to interact with, what campuses make you feel comfortable, etc. </p>

<p>If you are just choosing a college about where it will be easiest for you to get good grades and then get into the best grad school, then you really aren't focusing on the higher education side of things. And oh yeah, many JHU grads get into the best grad schools in the world!!!</p>

<p>Finally, I am not just preaching to you, Carnegie111, I am responding to all the students who ask these kind of questions. I guess with the New Year I am just hoping more students would ask questions that are more about the RIGHT FIT then which school provides some sort of advantage in life.</p>

<p>Daniel I agree with you on the right fit.</p>

<p>But wouldn't you agree that if your true aspiration is to go to an elite grad school (since grad matters more than undergrad to employers) it doesn't make sense to pay over 40k a year to have a bad gpa and hence no fulfill your goal?</p>

<p>If you want a easy A's, go to a public university. It's much easier and less competitive there.</p>

<p>Dont pick a school because you want easy A's, pick a school that matches you. There are many other applicants that actually want to go to the school, and it isn't fair that you're doing this just for the "easy GPA".</p>

<p>And Hopkins does send a lot of people to the top Grad schools, but you have to work for it, just like anywhere else.</p>

<p>Would I "agree that if your true aspiration is to go to an elite grad school it doesn't make sense to pay over 40k a year to have a bad gpa'???</p>

<p>Sorry, but I feel the question is flawed. In my eyes, the only way you get a bad GPA is by being a bad student. GPA success is not tied to a school, it is tied to how hard a student works.</p>

<p>Yeah, your GPA might be lower if you went to Hopkins compared to a "less rigorous" school. But I have a strong feeling that future employers and grad schools will value an education from JHU even if the GPA is lower.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=256537%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=256537&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think the questions posted are similiar. Read post #2 by BDM. Anecdotal evidence, yes, but interesting nevertheless.</p>

<p>Wow, that was a really fascinating thread, Karl Marks. Thanks for posting the link.</p>

<p>"Recent data from the Office of Preprofessional Advising indicates the mean GPA for Hopkins students accepted to medical school is 3.50, and the mean MCAT for accepted students is 30 (double points on each section)." <a href="http://undergradneurosci.jhu.edu/apply_medical.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://undergradneurosci.jhu.edu/apply_medical.shtml&lt;/a> or it can also be found on the advising manual
O.o most grad schools/med schools/law schools they all account for inflation and deflation...</p>

<p>Average GPA for accepted students is a 3.5 at hopkins? Woah!</p>

<p>Not sure how "up-to-date" that information is on the Neuroscience dept. page. Many of the department sites are not updated frequently. </p>

<p>And I agree that the thread KarlMarks posted is quite interesting - good find!</p>

<p>sorry i guess above info is not up to date...
• Average science GPA of 3.51
• Average nonscience GPA of 3.66
• MCAT average of 29.7 (9.6 verbal, 9.9
physical sciences, 10.2 biological sciences, and a
P writing sample)
<a href="http://www.jhu.edu/%7Ecareers/parents/handbook/preprofessional_advising.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jhu.edu/~careers/parents/handbook/preprofessional_advising.pdf&lt;/a>
11-oct-2006 last modified... i think this one is more up to date
-sorry to break the optimism =/ lol</p>

<p>Haha the 3.5 was more intimidating than optimistic.</p>