Is Lacrosse one of College's major sports?

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<p>John Adams: No, I don’t have any problem with people “attacking” the poor Ivy League. Also, everything he said is entirely true. You can’t blame him for stating the truth.</p>

<p>How does ND “fudge” their score reporting? And BTW, I thought this thread was about lacrosse, not SAT score reporting. I guess that since you can’t beat ND on the LAX field, you feel the need to bring up a bunch of BS claims about ND’s admission data.</p>

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<p>JA,
Many thanks for calling me a liar. Gawd, you’re desperate. </p>

<p>If you’re so insecure about Rice, go ahead and find my offending comment and post it here. Oh, and be sure to include the full context and quote. </p>

<p>As for the method in which ND reports standardized tests, what a silly argument. Many colleges report in this manner, including Ivy Dartmouth and Ivy-like Amherst.</p>

<p>Why is it that you can’t give any credit to excellent colleges like Notre Dame and Duke? No one disputes that the Ivies are good academic destinations for students and student-athletes. And most folks with a brain wouldn’t dispute the same statement about Notre Dame, Duke and plenty of other colleges that you disdain. But for some reason, you can’t do it. Too bad. It’s silly and arrogant, reflects badly on you, Princeton and the Ivies.</p>

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<p>Hawkette and why she prefers Rice over HYPM because of its excellent baseball team:</p>

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<p>John Adams: Hawkette makes a very valid point. People like to go to schools where they can experience D1 college sports and have a social life in addition to receiving a great education. Quite frankly, going to a school that has major sports programs just enhances the college experience. It gives you a sense of pride for your school and makes you proud to say that you are an alum of that particular school after a big victory. It turns college into a 40 year decision as opposed to a 4 year decision. I mean, what can be better than rooting on your school with 80,000 others in a stadium that is as loud as a jet engine? Or how about rushing the field with your fellow students after beating a top 5 team on national television and then partying until the wee hours of the morning? And do I really need to state the difference in the social lives between students of schools like Vandy, ND, or Rice and the students of the Ivy League? If you can’t understand any of this, then you are obviously one of those stereotypical Ivy League nerds.</p>

<p>Just imagine how exciting it would be to go to a school where you can experience something like this: [YouTube</a> - Crowd Noise disrupts 1988 ND-Michigan game](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vMunem6nw]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vMunem6nw)
or this: <a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da9Iw2Q4Br4[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da9Iw2Q4Br4&lt;/a&gt;
Or this: [YouTube</a> - 2009 10 31 USC vs Oregon Highlights](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es9tUT07aCE]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es9tUT07aCE)</p>

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<p>SOC2015, yes, please tell us the differnces in social lifes between ND and Rice compared to Harvard and Princeton</p>

<p>looking forward to your comments on this</p>

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<p>SOC2015, tell us again how you are stating that the main reason to attend schools such as Notre Dame, Vanderbilt or Rice would be because of its incredible football games, compared to Ivy league football games such as Harvard/Yale.</p>

<p>I guess that pretty much explains the intellectual capacity of Notre Dame students, doesn’t it?</p>

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<p>SOC2015</p>

<p>take some time</p>

<p>relax and think as to why ND has falsely and unethically reported that NONE if its students have ever submitted both the SAT and ACT scores, even though ND recommends this in its website</p>

<p>let us know what you conclude from this.</p>

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<p>AND DUKE WINS!!!
!@#$%^&()_)(*&^%$#@</p>

<p>Notre Dame is cool and all- but they are athletes as opposed to pure lax bros.</p>

<p>SICK GAME THOUGH</p>

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<p>This is a perfectly reasonable statement of one person’s college preferences. The surrounding remarks cannot accurately be reduced to, “Hawkette prefers Rice over HYPM because of its excellent baseball team.” </p>

<p>You know, for a discussion to work at all, there has to be an underlying spirit of cooperation.
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<p>tk, I guess that you failed to read this:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064969693-post83.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064969693-post83.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>John Adams: That was obviously a mistake and I fail to see why it is unethical. It was a simple error on the school’s website. BTW, ND is still better than Princeton in LAX. </p>

<p>Also, work on your reading comprehension. You’re not very good at it, especially for someone that went to Princeton. I clearly stated that some people want to attend institutions that are strong in academics and have major sports teams. They do this because having major sports programs enhances the college experience. They’re not going there just for football. Again, someone who went to Princeton would never understand this. Hawkette was right, you clearly have never been to a major college football game because you fail to see the difference between say ND vs USC and Yale vs Harvard. You evidently fulfill my Ivy League nerd stereotype.</p>

<p>Now I’m beginning to question the intellectual capacity of Ivy League students.</p>

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<p>^^ Nope. Read it. You and I apparently arrived at different interpretations.</p>

<p>Not that I share hawkette’s specific college preferences. I’m not too interested in spectator sports. But I acknowledge the desire for balance and recognize that people seek it in different activities.</p>

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<p>John Adams: I’ll go one step further. I’ll compare the social lives and provide examples of the stereotypical student from each school.</p>

<p>I’ll use ND as an example: Your typical ND student is a smart and athletic kid. They have lower stats than their Ivy League counterparts, but are still very much above average. They probably are an upper middle class Midwestern catholic. He/She probably played 1 more varsity sports in HS. The ND student enjoys attending sporting events and parties (mostly off campus) during their Saturdays. They are passionate about their school and their school’s athletic teams. They participate in community service with their church.</p>

<p>And then there’s your stereotypical Harvard student: They probably spend their Saturdays playing chess or reading. Other hobbies include participating in robotics competitions, physics competitions, and playing the cello. The typical Ivy League student went to an elitist east coast prep school. He/She considers ping pong to be a varsity sport. They also played ping pong in HS in order to list a sport for their application. They are also the president of the math club and chess club at their school. Their parents pushed them so much that they now feel that their life would be a failure if they ended up at an “inferior” school, such as UC Berkeley or UCLA. </p>

<p>Your rebuttal?</p>

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<p>MaxwellCady that was a totally uneducated response. Regardless of academics, which by the way is completely irrelevant to the post, Ivies never dominated lacrosse. The only two that have ever won NCAA championship titles are Cornell and Princeton-- the two most famous Ivies in terms of lacrosse program. They won a total of 9 championships (cornell and princeton) since 1971- and neither have won since 2001. The majority of titles have gone to Hopkins, Syracuse and other lax powerhouses. Say what you will about academics but the “New ivies” (stupid name) are not making the Ivy league second citizens in the realm of lacrosse… since the Ivies have never been particularly strong (2 of the eight I suppose were) They never claimed dominance.</p>

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<p>I’d also like to add that Hopkins being referenced as a lax powerhouse may be a thing of the past after this year… finishing with a losing record this year was just sad.</p>

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<p>Lacross is not a major college sport. There is football and men’s basketball, then there are sports where some regular season games are shown on TV, and then there are sports where only the postseason is shown on TV.</p>

<p>The only reason the Ivies are good at Lacrosse is because the best athletes get absorbed into sports they might eventually make a living at.</p>

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<p>The OP did not intend for this to be ANOTHER thread about prestige, where JohnAdams talks about how great Princeton is and people relentlessly try to defend Notre Dame. Can’t there be a single thread that does not deal with rankings and snobbery?</p>

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<p>This thread has turned to pure idiocy. JohnAdams made what? 6 straight aggressive posts that were laughably pretentious, and now you have this just totally idiotic stereotyping.</p>

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<p>Maxwell, you are so off it’s sad. IVIES HAVE NEVER DOMINATED. I’m not denying that other schools are on the rise, but your point that Ivies were holding on to dominance on the lacrosse field is completely and utterly false. </p>

<p>1971 Cornell
1972 Virginia<br>
1973 Maryland<br>
1974 Johns Hopkins<br>
1975 Maryland<br>
1976 Cornell
1977 Cornell
1978 Johns Hopkins<br>
1979 Johns Hopkins<br>
1980 Johns Hopkins<br>
1981 North Carolina<br>
1982 North Carolina<br>
1983 Syracuse<br>
1984 Johns Hopkins<br>
1985 Johns Hopkins<br>
1986 North Carolina<br>
1987 Johns Hopkins<br>
1988 Syracuse<br>
1989 Syracuse<br>
1990 Syracuse<br>
1991 North Carolina<br>
1992 Princeton<br>
1993 Syracuse<br>
1994 Princeton<br>
1995 Syracuse<br>
1996 Princeton<br>
1997 Princeton<br>
1998 Princeton<br>
1999 Virginia<br>
2000 Syracuse<br>
2001 Princeton<br>
2002 Syracuse<br>
2003 Virginia<br>
2004 Syracuse<br>
2005 Johns Hopkins<br>
2006 Virginia<br>
2007 Johns Hopkins<br>
2008 Syracuse<br>
2009 Syracuse<br>
2010 Duke</p>

<p>1992-2001 seems the only time that Princeton showed any level of “dominance”
Which is about 9 years ago so any dethroning was done a while back… please catch up</p>

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<p>The two schools I hate the most played in the game today. Imagine how much I had watching the game…</p>