<p>Even UCLA and UCB take a significantly smaller freshman class than UW. They offset that by taking many JC transfers but those don’t count against them when selectivity is discussed (and I have nothing against the JC policies). If UW could get away with taking just 4000-4500 freshmen the selectivity would increase significantly. But selectivity and being considered elite are hardly in the Wisconsin mindset. They have a far more populist worldview. As you would expect from a school that helped invent unemployment insurance and social security.</p>
<p>There you are barrons…</p>
<p>I have a very messed up eye so I’m limiting my reading and typing. Yesterday they did a 360 degree laser spot welding to keep my retina from detaching. Not fun. Now I have one eye that is blurry from all the debris floating around–and the other is not so hot either as they did a similar thing to it two years ago and it still has some floaters. And I’m getting cateracts–I’m not that old yet but my eyes are turning to junk. GRRRR</p>
<p>So if I have some typos please let them slide. I can barely read right now. I need a bigger screen. Can I demand one under handicapped laws?;-)</p>
<p>Barrons,</p>
<p>If you’re using a Windows machine, you might consider clicking on “my computer,” "Display, and adjusting the font size while you’re recuperating.</p>
<p>Hope you get better, barrons!</p>
<p>HOPE YOU GETS BETTER BARRONS!</p>
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:o :rolleyes: 
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<p>Thanks–I could read that no problem. I am working mostly in Word/excel so I put it on 125% but it slows me down. I’ll try it for the interweb stuff. I’m feeling a little sorry for myself today.</p>
<p>I think Cal is the only public uni that would be worth the extra cash over UW-Madison. UW may not be in the top 5 per se, but it is still a great school and a bargain for an in-state student.</p>
<p>I disagree Cuse0507. I wouldn’t pay the extra cash to go OOS to any public if I lived in Wisconsin or Minnesota and the had the majors I was interested in.</p>
<p>Assuming you’re OK with all the other factors at Wisconsin outside of academics and finances, unless there’s a particular program which is outstanding at another school and mediocre at UW, it’d be silly in my mind to go elsewhere for a perceived greater amount of prestige. You’ll get a good education, enjoy your time in college, and have essentially the same job prospects when you graduate, all at a lower cost. Am I missing something?</p>
<p>Also disagree with Cuse. With the exception of a couple of specialized programs (Eng + Chem at Cal, film/theater at UCLA, bioeng at SD, oenology at Davis), I don’t think any of the UCs are worth the OOS price.</p>
<p>^^^really any public university for that matter if you’re from a state that has high quality ones and you can get in of course.</p>
<p>^^the difference being that UVa (and UNC?) has good need-based aid for OOS students; thus, for those two its not so clear cut. UMich offers merit aid for OOS. UNC is $10k cheaper than UMich or Cal for OOS…</p>
<p>The UCs are just expensive, rapidly approaching the COA of a private.</p>
<p>Good merit aid for the 10% OOS students UNC has on campus? I’m impressed.</p>
<p>Alright, the responses so far have been pretty much what I was expecting. But now I need to throw in the kicker: What if I am planning on majoring in finance and am thinking about possibly going into investment banking?</p>
<p>Madison has a good business school, and you won’t have a discernable difference at any other public university. I repeat: you’ll get a good education, enjoy your time in college, and have essentially the same job prospects when you graduate, all at a lower cost.</p>
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<p>Good aid for pretty much everyone; hence its consistent #1 ranking as far as “Best Values” are concerned by Forbes.</p>
<p>Unless they want to major in engineering and some sciences.</p>
<p>While it is possible to get into i-banking from Wisconsin, you would be a lot better off going to Michigan. Wisconsin sends almost no graduates into BB i-banks.</p>
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<p>Hence the creation of NC State University, located about a 30 minute drive from UNC.</p>