Is MBA for me??

<p>Does it make sense to get MBA after my MS degree? I am getting a MS degree because the job market isn't great, i can get both BS and MS in 4 to 5 yrs and I do have the passion to still learn. </p>

<p>After working for 2-3 yrs, I want to get a MBA to get into a management position, managing engineers. But is it worth it? Will MBA, as you guys have said, shift you to a banking or something totally finance. Maybe instead of getting a MBA, wouldn't working in the same company for 4-5 years get me into a possible management position, with higher salary?</p>

<p>The reason this is coming up is because I want to keep my option of doing a phd open. Is it even feasible and sensible to go for a phd after getting a MBA and even after working for another 2-3 yrs? Will I become too old or too out of the subject matter? I have to admit the whole reason of fitting a MBA is the money and the approach of being safe and practical. Do phds today earn as much as a BS+MBA? Could I stick with BS MS phd and not worry about MBA? I fear the boredom of just managing engineers but I fear I may want more money and a fun life. I guess I am pursuing so many degrees because I am not sure of what I want to do but yet I need to safe option.</p>

<p>I think this is the wrong place to ask about MBA degrees…</p>

<p>Eh, not really. A lot of engineers will get one.</p>

<p>What kind of job are you looking to get upon graduation, and where do you want to end up in several years? If you do the engineer-management move that many people do then many companies will actually pay for you to get your MBA.</p>

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<p>That is the wrong decision.</p>

<p>You should be able to get a job with a BS in Engineering. Get an MS if you want more knowledge of the subject and want to know more in your job. </p>

<p>You should have a good/great lifestyle with an engineering job.</p>

<p>I would choose between either an MBA or a PhD because they are very different and lead to different careers (although with a PhD. in business or w/e you can do business).</p>

<p>Brahmin,</p>

<p>I have a lot of experience with this very type of question. In fact, I was in your same exact situation at one point (minus thinking about getting a PhD). I assume that you are just starting off your undergrad degree or looking at joint BS/MS programs? Based on what you said in your post, it actually seems like a better degree for you is a joint/integrated business and engineering.</p>

<p>I’m not exactly sure where you are located, but I go to Drexel University and in their joint BS Business and Engineering Program. Lehigh also has a joint program, as well as UPENN, and Penn State. The joint programs have been getting extremely popular and I can provide you a lot more details about these programs if you want more information.</p>

<p>Basically, if you do end up getting a joint (or integrated) degree, you probably won’t end up doing an actual engineering job. You’ll jump right into a management position supervising engineers. There are a number of extremely competitive leadership programs that recruit directly out of these majors, see Johnson and Johnson’s GOLD program or GE’s similar program for instance: [Johnson</a> & Johnson :: Careers :: Global Operations Leadership Development Program](<a href=“http://careers.jnj.com/careers/global/undergraduate_target/leadership_development_programs/gold/undergrad_gold.htm]Johnson”>http://careers.jnj.com/careers/global/undergraduate_target/leadership_development_programs/gold/undergrad_gold.htm) and [Undergraduate</a> Leadership Programs : University Students : Careers : GE](<a href=“http://www.ge.com/careers/students/imlp/index.html]Undergraduate”>General Electric Careers | Jobs at General Electric)</p>

<p>All these programs will put a college graduate on the fast track to upper management positions, not to mention the very high salary you start off with fresh out of college. you’ll also be rotated across operations all over north america. while this is just an example of the program you can go into, it’s extremely competitive.</p>

<p>The #1 reason you’d want to get an MS is to go more in depth into engineering. It won’t necessarily make you more competitive for a management position, as a joint business and engineering major will. While some argue that the traditional approach is an engineering undergrad and an MBA to jump into management positions, you’ll be much more marketable with a joint business and engineering degree, can jump right into management, and you very might find out that you might pursue a different career that gets paid a lot more of money during college… say management consulting, investment banking, or law.</p>

<p>A PhD is a waste of money and worthless if you want to stay in industry in a management role. If you were going into academia, research, etc - that’s when you’d want to pursue a PhD. Nevertheless, this would be a long time away and there are many different tracks you can take to get there, so you don’t need to stress about this now.</p>

<p>Let me know if you have any further questions</p>

<p>Ditto on the PHD being worthless in industry or management, with an exception for if you want to do industrial research. I worked for a steel company for a summer and had a chance to speak with the President/founder a few times, and he said the only difference between a PHD and a BS when he was hiring was he’d end up paying the PHD a couple thousand more to start, and after a couple years they’d be in the same place. What you get in a PHD program just isn’t that useful in industry in general.</p>

<p>thanks for your input guys,</p>

<p>gstein can you elaborate why?
sciencenerd, I agree with you that the choice is between PHD and a MBA (academia/research or industry)…but are you suggesting not to do MS? but how does PHD work without a MS? Isn’t MS like the first 2 years of your PHD? I read somewhere PHD IS 6 years without MS but is 4 years after a MS…or am I wrong? is MS totally useless if you can get a PHD right away…and from what you guys are saying MS has no advantages over a BS industry-wise?
Now, it is clear that there is no point getting a MBA and a PHD and zack i am aware of that program in UPenn but its not in my university…and isn’t that jointdegree for someone who is sure of going to management and industry
do you guys know how much PHD’s earn in comparison to MBA’s
I was planning to go for MS after my BS…but now I am scared it’s a waste of a degree from what you guys have said…because I can get PHD right after BS anyway…and if I get a MBA my MS is practically waste…am I right?
maybe, I should go for the MS unless I get a very good job…but aren’t applying to top PHD programs much easier after a MS</p>

<p>I am interested in this thread as well, since I have been planning on following a BS/MS than MBA route in bioengineering, since I don’t feel undergrad bioengineering goes in depth enough. </p>

<p>But I am merely a freshmen with a lot of thinking ahead of him. Any suggestions? I am not sure if my university offers a joint program like you mentioned…</p>