<p>I read on another thread in this board that Indiana doesn't accept students who have gotten D's at any point, or who have a GPA lower than a C+. My gpa is a 2.4. I had a solid B for my Freshman and Sophomore years, but then in my junior year I really bombed. </p>
<p>My SAT scores are quite good though. 690 reading, 670 math, 700 writing. </p>
<p>Will my gpa cause them to just toss my app out? Can I get in solely based on my SAT scores, a good essay and good recs even with the gpa below their standards? </p>
<p>I think you've got a very legit shot. Although your GPA isn't something you want them seeing, you have awesome SAT's for IU, and if you send in a good essay/recs/EC's, it'll only help your chances.</p>
<p>Indiana doesn't admit students with D's. And with a 2.4 GPA, you likely have a few D's. You also have a declining GPA, which won't help. I think it's too low. It's nearly an entire point below their average GPA. That puts you in the bottom 5% of accepted applicants. It's a reach for you, but if you are really interested in IU, apply! They accept 4 out of 5 applicants. But with a GPA like that, you may be the 1 of 5 they reject.</p>
<p>I'd look the community college route. If you go to community college for a semester, year or 2 years, and get a 3.3 or higher, you can go to numerous places. I spoke to a USC admissions representative and they said that they automatically accept you with a 3.3 community college GPA for a year. A good year at a community college will open doors for you, that you don't have open right now.</p>
<p>Regretful-Have you taken any Honors/AP classes? That might help you, particularly if your weighted GPA is higher. If you want to apply, i suggest doing so as soon as possible. The longer you wait, the more difficult it will be.</p>
<p>I have taken two AP classes. Ap Language and Comp. and AP US History. However, I only completed AP Languagae and Comp. I did get a five on the exam, though. </p>
<p>I already applied about a month ago. I'm just waiting to hear back now.</p>
<p>I have looked at the students grades and SATs at my school who were accepted at Indiana last year and stats seemed pretty favorable. Indiana accepted 15 out of 15 applicants from my high school last year. Also, a student with a 2.7 GPA and a 1000 SAT (out of 1600) was admitted. You might say that my stats amount to something below those of that person, but they can't be that much lower. Personally, I think mine are better.</p>
<p>Colleges won't think that a 2.2 GPA is better than a 2.7. People believe that test scores tell all, when truly, it's the GPA that colleges are going to be looking at the hardest.</p>
<p>A student with a 2.7 is a B student. A student with a 2.2 is a C student. There is a HUGE difference. </p>
<p>They see someone with a low GPA and high test scores as a slacker. Someone with the potential to be a good student, but doesn't have ambition. And college is all about taking on the large workload and achieving.</p>
<p>I understand what you're saying and it makes sense, but I have a 2.4, not a 2.2. The difference between a 2.4 and a 2.7 is certainly substantial, but it's hardly a gigantic gap. It's one step up. Whereas, the difference between a 1360 and a 1000 is huge. Now, GPA is more valuable than SAT, there is no question about it, but that's a relatively small difference in GPA compared to the large difference in SAT. So, I'd say I'm about equal to that student, and that I clearly have the potential to have a far higher GPA than him or her. However, that might work against me, because not working up to your potential is probably one of the least attractive qualities you can have as far as admissions go.</p>
<p>I don't want to discourage you, because things are different from year to year, but a few years ago my nephew was not accepted into Indiana University. He had a C+ gpa and got 32 on his ACT and they didn't care that he'd taken some AP and Honors courses. My brother even called to discuss this with them and they said they do not accept students with a gpa in the C range and they get too many applications to take into account what every individuals coursework was. My son was just accepted and when he was there for a visit, one of the parents had a question regarding higher ACT scores and lower gpa's and someone on the staff said they would take someone with higher grades and lower ACT/SAT scores, but not the other way around, because some people don't test well, whereas a gpa is more reflective of one's work ethic and committment and real understanding of the material. </p>
<p>Having said that, I'll repeat that the body of people applying changes each year and you never know. If there was a death or divorce in your immediate family or some other extenuating circumstance that could have contributed to your grades, I would definitely let them know, and maybe they'll take that into account.</p>
<p>Good luck to you no matter where you end up going!</p>
<p>That's interesting that your nephew wasn't able to get in with a C+ and great ACTs, but people in my school have gotten in with a C+ and terrible SATs. Do you think it's possible that they would look at a student with a high SAT or ACT score and a low GPA as a slacker, but a student with a low SAT or ACT score and a GPA that matches it as someone who is working to their full potential and therefore more worthy of acceptance? </p>
<p>I agree that a GPA is more reflective of one's work ethic and committment, but I strongly disagree with the part about understanding the material. So much of high school is based on doing work that requires time, and not true understanding. Saying that some students don't test well is just a huge cop-out. A test is the only way to determine true understanding of the material. I think these colleges are looking at work ethic harder than anything else, but they should have a better understanding of high school and how a student with a high GPA could really be much less intelligent than a student with a lower GPA. </p>
<p>I don't really know what's going to happen to me. Right now, I'm kind of pessimistic. I do think it's interesting that college works on a more merit based system where tests are such a gigantic part of everything, yet they admit students based mostly on high school grade point average which belittles testing and encourages doing busy-work. I'm getting off topic here, though.</p>
<p>Actually, I'm not in state. I'm from New York. You have better stats than me so I would say that you have got a better shot. Good luck either way!</p>
<p>Have you considered Purdue btw? Its really close to IU and both of them are similar in various ways. I am applying to both, so if I am rejected from one, I will still have another chance.....</p>
<p>I haven't considered Purdue. I'm not dead set on going to a school in Indiana. In fact, I'm not sure that I would go to IU if i got in. </p>
<p>Purdue seems to be tougher than IU. I think that if I was rejected by IU, I wouldn't have much of a shot at Purdue. </p>
<p>I am considering a TON of other colleges, though. It's not like I'm banking on IU. I'm really sending out as many apps as I can hoping that I'll get into a school that I really would like to attend. My ultimate goal is that next year I'm somewhere that doesn't make it feel like I'm being punished for getting low grades in high school.</p>
<p>I think there could be a number of reasons that my nephew didn't get in, yet your friends did. First, the year he applied may have had a pool of applicants that warranted his being refused. Secondly, I don't know when he applied. It's possible he waited until later (like spring) and they had enough applicants they accepted in his grade/ACT range by the time they came to his. There are so many things that must go into the process that it's hard to explain anything and our assumptions are just that. </p>
<p>It's also possible that the person who did the presentation gave an incorrect answer with regard to how they view applicants with high ACT/SAT scores who have gpa's in the C range. </p>
<p>Because of this, all anyone can do is apply and hope for the best. My son sent in a paper application which had to go through his high school counsellor and he heard back in about two and a half weeks. How long has it been since you applied?</p>
<p>Okay, I just spoke to my brother to make sure I got the details correct, and I did. He also told me that his younger son was denied admission with a 2.2 gpa and a 24 ACT. He was even wait listed at a school that is known for taking the kids with less than stellar grades. Interestingly, however, he was accepted by and given some money from Bowling Green. </p>
<p>Like I said in my previous post - these things are hard to explain!</p>
<p>I applied in late October/Early November. Right around November 1st. OneStart didn't say that they had all my materials until about two weeks ago. A lot of the people on this board said that they had called on the phone and heard their decision early, so I decided to do that. When I called, they still said it would be a few weeks until a decision would be made. I wonder if the longer wait that I'm experiencing is bad or good. It could be either one, or it could just be that right now is peak application time and everyone is waiting. People in my school who sent there's right around the time that I sent mine heard back weeks ago already, though.</p>