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<p>welcome to the real world</p>
<p>Let’s see… in the past few days you have started posts whining about your grades, lack of a car, and no heat in your dorm room. This is getting old…</p>
<p>This would usually be where the flounce occurs…</p>
<p>Your instructor has already made it clear that she’s not changing the grade. To me that sounds like an endpoint on the discussion. Done. Finito.</p>
<p>Could you contest the grade… sure. But do you really want to do that for a FIVE (five!) point assignment? I don’t think so.</p>
<p>Use this as a learning experience (ha…) and do what you didn’t do this time around on the next assignment.</p>
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^ This. </p>
<p>OP: Grow up. Your complaints about college are nothing compared to what people face in the real word. </p>
<p>No matter how many times you say a 4/5 is a “HUGE DEAL”, it’s really NOT. Professors aren’t going to baby you. Next time you do a presentation, THINK it through thoroughly. Don’t ask your professor a vague question and expect her to tell you everything that needs to be done to get full points. You need to make your own judgments.</p>
<p>And I honestly don’t know why some people have the need to make threads, asking for opinions, and then proceed to argue against every response that doesn’t agree with them. Telling people to “buzz off” when they give you their opinion is freaking rude - why the hell did you make the thread in the first place? </p>
<p>So yeah um… grow up? </p>
<p>SingDanceRunLife’s next thread:
“My college books are too expensive!! Ugh. I don’t want to spend $50 on dirty, overused books!!! Ugh. Is this fair for me?! Ugh. I don’t think so. Ugh!!”</p>
<p>My group worked hard on our presentation, and we fulfilled the requirements for it 100%.</p>
<p>Lol, exactly the type of response I would expect from you. </p>
<p>What may have been “hard work” to you and your group could have looked insufficient to the professor. It doesn’t matter if you guys fulfilled the requirements 100%. In high school, you would’ve received an A. In college, you need to not only fulfill the requirements but ALSO complete the assignment in an outstanding way. Who determines if it was outstanding or not? Your professor. Get it now? </p>
<p>God I feel like I’m speaking to a five year old. Except even five year-olds aren’t as annoying and stubborn as this.</p>
<p>This class is taught like a high school course. Sometimes I feel like it’s more of a middle school course. My professor literally spoon feeds us everything, has assigned seating, constantly reminds us of all the assignments we have and when they’re due, and tells us what work we have missing. So I’m sorry that I expect things to be a certain way, but that’s how this class is.</p>
<p>It doesn’t matter how nice the professor is in other areas of the classroom, when it comes to grading, it’s their standards and NOT yours. I’ve had plenty of professors who had assigned seating (helps them learn names and prevent exam cheating), reminded us about assignments, and told us if we had something missing (to make sure it wasn’t a grading error or that they’d lost something). At the same time, some of these professors were the hardest graders because they expected a high quality of work. I can’t wait to see your threads when you go to grad school, because you’re in for a real treat</p>
<p>Professors in college don’t always strictly translate things the way you think they would - i.e., 4/5 = 80. That’s high school stuff. I worked for a professor as a TA; there was a paper she wanted us to grade on a 10-point scale. The average was a 6/10; that was a B-ish grade. No one ever got a 10/10 and very few students got a 9/10. Before you assume there’s a huge difference, you should ask.</p>
<p>Also, as others have mentioned - you don’t get a perfect score in college for doing things exactly the way the professor tells you. Merely fulfilling the requirements is C-level stuff (and in today’s grade-inflated world, maybe B-level). If I ask students to do a presentation, I expect them to already know that they need to use data to back up their assertions. Otherwise, it’s just me listening to your opinions for 5-15 minutes. That’s a given for high school level work, much less college-level work.</p>
<p>In the adult world, if you made a presentation without any data or statistics to back up your assertions, you could lose your company money and clients. And if your excuse is “no one told me I needed that,” your boss would begin to seriously question your maturity and competence.</p>
<p>I would expect a college level assignment to meet all points on the rubric to receive a passing grade; if the assignment fell short on meeting all the requirements, it would not pass. Meeting the requirements is a starting point and nothing more.</p>
<p>What would deserve a better grade, or a best grade, would be a measure of how much the quality of the assignment exceeded the basic expectations.</p>
<p>OP, in the real world, your employer–even a preschool–will evaluate you not just on meeting the minimum expectations of your job, but on how much more you bring to it, and how you add value.</p>
<p>Even a cashier in a grocery store is evaluated. A cashier is expected not to be rude to customers, and may be expected to greet them a certain way, etc. A mystery shopper may indicate that a certain cashier “met expectations” on an evaluation form. She’s not going to be fired. But her evaluation is not going to be as strong as the cashier who made the customer feel really welcomed, and engaged with the customer in a truly personal and enthusiastic way. He is going to receive a much higher evaluation score, and more likely a raise or a promotion.</p>
<p>The first cashier didn’t do anything “wrong” but she just didn’t do as much “right.” I think that is the professor’s reaction to your project. You didn’t do anything wrong; you met expectations. But you didn’t exceed them. And maybe the professor’s judgment of the relative quality of projects in your class is subjective–but that is something you had better get used to, because that is how things go in the adult world.</p>
<p>Stop whining and try harder next time. You’re not entitled to a perfect score. You needed more data/statistics, that is why you did not get 5/5. It’s that simple.</p>
<p>Honestly, you sound a lot like the whiny Masters degree students my mom teaches. Her answer to them is always ‘no’ too. In an education class graphics STILL means data represented visually (i.e. a graph) unless the topic has no possible way to find data.</p>