<p>well you must not be a catholic then. with nd being a catholic institution and having strict beliefs about certain topics, Obama’s beliefs go against every belief the catholic church follows</p>
<p>Hey collegebound, now you’re just talking in hyperbole. If you want to be on a who’s Catholic and who’s not witch hunt, you won’t find that at ND. This is not the way the students behave. If you frame a person based on your conception of whether they are Catholic or not before you engage them in discussion, you force yourself to caricature them and form abstractions about them from the get-go. That’s exactly what you just did with sg12. From a Catholic standpoint, that is unconscionable. You brought this topic up, so if you want to discuss it, please discuss it maturely.</p>
<p>Oh, I might also point out that nothing I’ve posted so far is meant to be construed as support for the president himself.</p>
<p>OK, I don’t know why I’m justifying this topic with any more responses, but:</p>
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<li><p>I’m pretty sure CitricAcid was being sarcastic… There are a lot of people at Notre Dame who are not Catholic and many more who are Catholics in name only. Everyone gets along just fine- after all, we are the Notre Dame family. It would be nice if people who have no idea what Notre Dame is like would stop telling other people what Notre Dame is like…</p></li>
<li><p>“The mainstream media coverage of the Obama debacle didn’t do justice to the controversy”</p></li>
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<p>On the contrary, I think it was blown ridiculously out of proportion… Although I suppose some of the backlash wasn’t covered thoroughly enough. I mean, there are still some people out there who think Randall Terry isn’t crazy. And who haven’t seen the Abortoplane (or Fetus Flyer, if you will). A clear oversight on the part of our nation’s media…</p>
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<li><p>And of course, collegebound. Just remember: be REALLY careful when you go out in public. You wouldn’t want to interact with any non-Catholics out there, especially pro-choicers! You certainly wouldn’t want to make the mistake of discussing anything with them! And if you are ever giving someone an award (for anything…) you should probably make sure that their political and religious beliefs mesh perfectly with your own. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be Catholic anymore! And that would be terrible… </p></li>
<li><p>Well said, TalkingInCode. I agree completely with your two posts above.</p></li>
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<p>Yea, I should clarify. I understand that sarcasm is nearly impossible to detect on the internet, but that was definitely sarcastic. If you are not Catholic it is 100% no problem, A-OK. I haven’t talked to anybody who has had any problem with different (or no) faith besides the fact that there aren’t many people of different faiths.</p>
<p>Let me reiterate, ND is still Catholic and if you aren’t Catholic, you will still be fine.</p>
<p>Thanks for your response–I sure was hoping that I was misinterpreting the post, but many prospects read these boards and you just never know how posts are received.</p>
<p>"2. “The mainstream media coverage of the Obama debacle didn’t do justice to the controversy”</p>
<p>On the contrary, I think it was blown ridiculously out of proportion… Although I suppose some of the backlash wasn’t covered thoroughly enough. I mean, there are still some people out there who think Randall Terry isn’t crazy. And who haven’t seen the Abortoplane (or Fetus Flyer, if you will). A clear oversight on the part of our nation’s media…"</p>
<p>But, see, that was my point. The mainstream media focused on Randall Terry and the airplane. NOT the students who organized the peaceful and prayerful Palm Sunday prayer rally and graduation day Mass, or the thousands of ND alums and friends who supported them. Randall Terry is a loose cannon with no connection to Notre Dame, but he does know how to attract attention to himself. The mainstream media obliged, because Terry and his protesters gave them a natural “aren’t these folks just ridiculous” counterpart to the solemn statements from Fr. Jenkins and his spokesmen about respectful “dialogue.”
What the mainstream media missed was that there are a number of voices within the Notre Dame community, such as the students who organized ND Response, Fr. Miscamble in the history department, and Prof Rick Garnett in the law school, who spoke out forcefully against the Obama invitation, and who are working hard to maintain Notre Dame’s Catholic identity. If all you know about Notre Dame is what you read in the New York Times or watch on CNN, you probably don’t know about those people.</p>
<p>claremarie, I agree 100% with that statement. The way the news portrayed it made those of us against Obama’s invitation look like complete lunatics. Most, if not all, kids on campus opposed to it were not acting as Terry did, and as you said, that’s all the news picked up. It hurt our stance because people just saw us a crazy fringe group instead of a group dedicated to life.</p>
<p>BobbyC Wasn’t that the media’s intent? If they marginalize intelligent, articulate people who abhor the genocide of abortion, and highlight the carnival barkers, they by default make the pro abortion arguement appear reasoned and unjustly maligned.</p>
<p>Fair enough, Claremarie. The media definitely didn’t do a good enough job of covering the reaction of actual Notre Dame students, which was generally much more rational than that of the general public (on both the pro and con sides). Yet most of the attention ended up on people with no connection to the University, who were generally insane…</p>
<p>hkfl, while that might be true of a cnn, fox news even did it sometimes and that certainly hurt their intent as a conservative news network</p>