<p>it’s a terrible school… with all it’s tradition, school spirit, and amazing academics. yuck.
who would want to go to a school like that?</p>
<p>lol at people who actually take BW’s u-grad business ranking seriously. Those ppl need to first understand what “target” means in the world of business and actually go out and experience first hand if any HFs or IBs drool over “OMG! ND! Mendoza! ranking number 1! better than wharton!”. Though you can be proud of your school, stating that Mendoza is number 1 in the BW ranking and thus the best is just stupid and shows how ignorant you are.</p>
<p>It’s funny people seriously take Businessweek rankings. </p>
<p>I just realised orangelemonlime said what I wanted to say. Listen, NOBODY working in an investment bank such as GS or Barclays will say “Mendoza is BETTER than Wharton or Sloan!” I’m not saying Mendoza is bad, but …those who die for 1st place BW rank position needs a serious reality check.</p>
<p>haha awesome. distracting myself from this exam i have tomorrow and thought i’d log into the old CC account i havent been on since acceptance day. and what an awesome thread i came across… And while the brilliant headlining, double-take promoting, even-better-question-containing inquiry almost inspired me to drop school altogether because of the thrilling prospect of this school admitting one more fun-loving genius like the OP, I decided this would be fun. let me begin…</p>
<p>dementedwombat, as cool as your username is not, I feel compelled to further the self-wrought stupidity I hope you feel. And if you still haven’t caught on, which is definitely a definite and a probably even probable possibility, I call you out for your hell of a question. Normally, I would not deign to answer such utter idiocy, but like I said i have a test im not studying for. On second thought, I will maintain and still not answer the question. However, I will ask that you matriculate to a school other than this because it is “domers” (a term you will never come to know) like you that prevent this school from being everything it could be. It is the fact that we can party and still ace a Calc 3 test the morning after a Wednesday Cheers poop-show that makes this place unique. and while in some senses ND doesnt have all of the party life of a typical state school, there are aspects of it which foster more drinking/partying. i.e. super-lax dorm policies. drinking is allowed and often (because of a somewhat high prevalence of offcampus busting excise police) encouraged in the dorm, whcih from what it sounds like will be where you will spend the majority of your time. this is the reason i give you to not come here and i pray listen. </p>
<p>MomKay, great post. And while I love to see enthusiasm about our school…South Bend is a piece. And from an east coaster’s opinion, the state of IN has to be the worst state in the country - what with all its “Excise police”, can limits (that means restricted amount of beer you can buy at one time fyi, wombat), and legislation preventing the sale of alcoholic beverages on Sunday, even Sundays of the superbowl. Well, as bad as that sounds…SOuth bend is the culmination of all of this with the small addition of the corrupt police infested crime-mecca that it ALsO is. That being said, I still love it, which says something. nowhere else…</p>
<p>jamiecago…you also are coming across really stupid. careful about stating that ND’s mendoza is #1 in undergraduate business? no…accurate. who pays any attention to any other business rankings other than business week’s? slows. that’s who. and yes, that’s actually plenty enough reason to come here (not encouraging you to though dementedwombat, dont get the wrong idea. also, I am sure that you credited business week’s ranking list’s legitimacy until this year. This is because you are a catholic-hater. there can surely be no other reason on earth. and you got rejected. and settled for boston college. or michigan, or USC, or some other institution of similar academically-inferior reputation. </p>
<p>another point. Actually, there are many business employers out there who would indeed make the less-than-incredulous claim that Mendoza is indeed the best: grads. And there are many. and they like to look out for their own. and while these fine, model citizens may be the reason for the extraordinarily high job matriculation and (arguably) the subsequent result of high rankings, what does it matter? it doesnt. it’s all semantics. what will get you a job. many things. including awesome networking. it is a key to success for many people. </p>
<p>However, I don’t even know if all this business talk pertains to the OP. I sure hope it doesnt because while his/her sole, life-purposing value that is his/her gpa will land some interviews, if by some small chance the employer half expects the interviewee to have the ability to hold a conversation I think he/she is screwed. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt, jamiecago…and express my relief that I’m not looking for a goldman sachs or barclays internship. Even in all of this criticism wrought with my most sincere sarcasm, I will applaud your wise conclusion of “not saying Mendoza is bad.” I’m not sure how that brilliant epiphany came to you, but I’m impressed.</p>
<p>“those who die for 1st place BW rank position needs a serious reality check.” Where to even start with this brilliance…
Well I guess I’ll start with: This is just really stupid. Why would a school “die for 1st place BW rank position”? It’s hard to believe that any school would actually have to die for 1st place when Notre Dame did it without even much effort. And in the chance that I misinterpreted your near grammatically flawless sentence and wasn’t thrown off by your lack of subject/verb agreement I will address the statement from a different understanding: why would anyone die over any rankings… Not a great exaggerative expression. You are coming across pretty dumb, too.
And to further admire your excellent syntax… I don’t think you finished your thought Jamiecago. It’s funny people seriously take BusinessWeek rankings…yes?..continue… Take BusinessWeek rankings what? Finish your thought. </p>
<p>Now for the enlightening orangelemonlime (in reference to his/her apparent and mind-blowing ability to voice the overly complicated opinion that jamiecago could not), “lol” (I didn’t know we were still abbreviating the already questionable expression). For starters, I would like to tell you how cool I think you are for using sweet abbreviations like “HFs” and “IBs”. I think I must be missing the logic behind the resulting labels of ignorance and stupidity when considering the highest ranked undergraduate business program to be the best. Generally speaking, it is usually safe to view 1st placed things as the best… Am I in the twilight zone? What would be the point of ranking anything if no value is placed into the rankings… I guess it’s a pretty tricky concept to grasp, but typically “1st” is equated to “best”.</p>
<p>phillies2008: you got rejected, too. (And though I most likely will not be checking this website again… No, everyone does not always assume that anyone who rips on ND got rejected. But if they did they would be absolutely correct. Obviously.) Hmm…Inflated undergrad program quality because of reputable grad program… I don’t “inflated” is the word you want to use. I think “resulting” would make more sense. If ND’s grad program is indeed legitimately good, then chances are good that the undergraduate program is also decent without need for inflation. It is, after all, under the same dean, the same values, many of the same professors, etc… Also, I applaud your nonconformity to the English language in your revolutionary phonetic complication of the word “renowned”. Copesthetic, man. F the mainstream. </p>
<p>collegeorbust10 - I sincerely hope that your daughter gets in. It has been my observation that the students here who really want to be here are way more fun than the opposite (see OP). </p>
<p>While there is Partying at ND, like every other university, one can easily not partake in any extracurricular activities. Joking. Extracurriculars obviously extend beyond the realm of getting drunk. And at any school you can find your niche…even you dementedwombat…though I feel safe in betting it will not be the same as my own…though it might be the same as the kid whose test I will now have to copy tomorrow. Also joking there I have to take it by myself because I’m early anyway. But I digress. Notre Dame is an awesome place, and I can see myself nowhere else (cliche? I’m aware). And don’t worry all you intimidated prospies…not everyones as big an “AH” as me (that’s a shout out to you orange) and I’ll show any of you “maybes” a great time… I promise you that, parents out there…though I’d rather have the “hell-yeah’s”. Just kidding though, really. </p>
<p>While generally I wouldn’t have been on this site, much less have left an essay of a post for people to scoff at and to post in response their meaningless problems (relative to my caring) with my (believe-it-or-not) lighthearted sarcasm and improper tone…I really needed the distraction. And this was fun. But will I get a rise out of you? I don’t know. But, in conclusion, I must revert to my critically sarcastic, not much of an undertone attitude and say thank you wombat for reminding me the reason I never revisited this site. Stay stupid.</p>
<p>For the win</p>
<p>lolowned o_O</p>
<p>If I could give you reputation griffon, I would.</p>
<p>Total win.</p>
<p>Seeing how you think Businessweek’s ranking #1 = best, I can clearly understand how </p>
<p>■■■■■■■■ and ignorant you are.</p>
<p>Also, you calling me and others stupid does not carry much weight when your comment</p>
<p>in general is filled with trash and is written by someone who has nothing but useless pride </p>
<p>in his school.</p>
<p>Please, get your facts right (and by fact, I mean Mendoza, while it is a good school, is no </p>
<p>where BEST in the country) before starting this crap.</p>
<p>And to appledude, kevdude and tilgaham, it’s kinda cute what you guys are doing, </p>
<p>cheering for you ND friend, but also kinda pathetic.</p>
<p>Last thing: we really don’t care whether you usually don’t visit this site or not because</p>
<p>you are too cool for this forum. We all know that you don’t return to this forum because </p>
<p>all you can do is leave a inanely ■■■■■■■■ comment that is full of trash and run away from </p>
<p>what others have to say about your meaningless comment.</p>
<p>As much as I do like and respect Notre Dame, I have to say, griffon, that your comment reeks of insecure arrogance. If ND really is such a great school, all you should need to do is present the facts and let them speak for themselves. Anybody who’s smart enough to understand the significance of median ACT ranges or BW rankings will know what you’re saying, and why waste your time insulting someone who doesn’t? The comment you made that another poster (who happens to be international, so possibly does not understand all the cultural intricacies you take for granted) was “coming across really stupid” is pure irony. If you are truly are an ND student who wants to attract others to your alma mater, I would suggest you change your approach lest you scare them off with your haughty bluster.</p>
<p>Such anger… hilarious.</p>
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<p>ND is academically inferior to Michigan, not the other way around.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/797962-college-comparison-xxii-usnwr-peer-assessment-ratings.html?highlight=peer+assessment[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/797962-college-comparison-xxii-usnwr-peer-assessment-ratings.html?highlight=peer+assessment</a></p>
<p>FYI, Businessweek places an overly significant weighting on student satisfaction surveys. That’s why UVA and Mendoza rank highly; the students like the teaching there. If we’re talking about better internships/recruiting, then BW’s rankings take a distant second place to US News. If you want to argue that Mendoza has better internship opportunities + recruiting than Ross, then go find some actual data instead of running your mouth like a mutt.</p>
<p>This is great to see! There are numerous articles explaining how every college ranking is biased somewhere and how there really isn’t a fair way to judge. I do have to agree that Notre Dame has a better academic reputation and a higher endowment, but whether this leads to better academics in general is up in the air (it does)</p>
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<p>It’s kind of funny how the ND student can’t spell “soul.” Funnier than his over-the-top arrogant and smug attempts at “wit” and “humor,” at any rate. His vapid inability to see subtletly and nuance is quite amusing though. </p>
<p>I thought the OP’s question was seemingly innocuous and genuine. But then again, I believe in generosity of spirit and giving people the benefit of the doubt, which unfortunately doesn’t extend to anonymous authors of ridiculously obnoxious and belligerent internet posts.</p>
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<p>You’re completely wrong. Michigan has a higher endowment.
[University</a> of Michigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Of_Michigan]University”>University of Michigan - Wikipedia)
$6 billion
[University</a> of Notre Dame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_notre_dame]University”>University of Notre Dame - Wikipedia)
$4.8 billion</p>
<p>Also, the thread I linked to is the U.S. News PEER ASSESSMENT ranking. It’s based on the collective opinions of thousands of academics, nationwide. In other words, professionals who know what they’re talking about. 4.4 U of M, 3.8 ND. </p>
<p>Please stop talking out of your ass.</p>
<p>You misunderstood this point. “Sole” here means “only”. Digging up grammatical mistakes of others does not contribute to the discussion.</p>
<p>It SHOULD be “sole,” not “soul.”</p>
<p>Lol, don’t listen to the ■■■■■ Recharge. He/she just didn’t get into Notre Dame and UVA, hence the bitterness.</p>
<p>UVa and Notre Dame clearly better than Michigan. USNews Ranking speaks for itself. Even BusinessWeek ranks both schools as better than Michigan.</p>
<p>Fair enough. I misread the intent of his word usage. But I did not misread the holier-than-thou intent of his post.</p>
<p>Uhm, well you got me on that one. Not really. The University of Michigan’s endowment per student is your 6 billion / 41674 students (and if I can do math correctly, and I probably can’t)… so about 143,000 ish and Notre Dame’s is about 481,738 ish. Thanks for the caring comment though</p>
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<p>I’ve already [destroyed</a> your credibility](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-virginia/917385-help-uva-mcintere-vs-berkeley-haas-vs-michigan-ross.html]destroyed”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-virginia/917385-help-uva-mcintere-vs-berkeley-haas-vs-michigan-ross.html), stop crying. </p>
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<p>Endowment per student isn’t a valid statistic. It’s something you came up with. And if you want to argue like that, then Ross’s [$780</a> million endowment](<a href=“Ross School of Business - Wikipedia”>Ross School of Business - Wikipedia) per [1074</a> students](<a href=“http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0304_best_undergrad_business_schools/9.htm]1074”>http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0304_best_undergrad_business_schools/9.htm) is greater than Mendoza’s [$357</a> million](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendoza_College_of_Business]$357”>Mendoza College of Business - Wikipedia) per [1750 students](<a href=“http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0304_best_undergrad_business_schools/2.htm”>http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0304_best_undergrad_business_schools/2.htm</a>).</p>
<p>Ha, ok then. [Top</a> 2000 Ranked Universities for Highest Overall School Score](<a href=“USA University College Directory - U.S. University Directory - State Universities and College Rankings”>Top 2000 Ranked Colleges - Highest Overall School Score)<br>
guess not everyone sides with Michigan. And I was never arguing that Mendoza was better than Ross (never even heard of Ross anyways)</p>