<p>GoBlue is correct. Michigan accepts almost as many OOS applicants as IS applicants, but receives almost twice as many OOS applicants. So the acceptance rate of OOS applicants is almost half that of IS applicants, not one quarter.</p>
<p>^Specifically, according to numbers from 2009, based on the total ratio of student origin, this would be the rough breakdown:
IS = 66% of student population
OOS but US = 28% of student population
International = 6% of student population</p>
<p>Now, if anyone knows the number of applicants from each sector…we could actually divine a selectivity figure ;)</p>
<p>BTW, MLDWoody, COE accounts for roughly 21% (possibly less last year) of the Freshman population, of which 63% were from Michigan and 37% from OOS/Intl in 2009. Meaning OOSers “weight” in the overall GPA is less than 8%.</p>
<p>SO I don’t think proportionally your argument holds that more OOS are in COE which is tougher. There IS value in that report insofaras debunking the notion that the locals are dummies and everyone OOS is way smarter – performance is the metric, and performance turns out to be roughly on par. </p>
<p>However, there is no real value in that report in guessing proportionate selectivity. In short, while your odds may be better in state, that does not necessarily mean in state candidates are of lesser academic quality.</p>
<p>Think of it like a smorgasboard: UM walks up and takes a helping of neuratypical geniuses. Then a helping of starchy liberal game chanager type As. Then a helping of high quality specialists. Then a helping of artsy multilingualists. Then a helping of athletic hooks. Then some URM. At the end of the process, they’re hoping for a gourmet meal. There are many types of smart, and Michigan knows it ;)</p>
<p>Actually, the exact breakdown is as follows:</p>
<p>In-State students: 17,576 (65%)
Out of State students: 7,697 (28%)
International students: 1,754 (6%)
TOTAL: 27,027</p>
<p>I know Michigan received close to 7,000 applications from internationa students and are going to accept roughly 1,200 of them. That’s probably the most selective group, with an anticpated acceptance rate under 20%. This year, I would estimate that the acceptance rate for OOS students will be in the 30%-35% range and for IS applicants will be in the 50%-55% range. Overall, Michigan is going to admit roughly 38%-40% of applicants this year.</p>
<p>If UofM set a goal to admit only the top applicants, UofM would be a top 10 school in the word without a doubt. However, UofM’s goal is to help Michigan students first.</p>
<p>You’re right kmcmom. I didn’t actually know the numbers of OOS vs IS for engineering. It just made sense that there would be more OOS but I guess not.</p>
<p>I won’t try to argue the average OOS student is smarter than the average IS student because there ate too many factors to consider. Even though it would make sense to me.</p>
<p>We do know its more selective for OOS students though, and that was the main point of the thread</p>
<p>^Thanks Alexandre, I should have just asked you instead of attempting voodoo math based on old reports 
Does this represent a substantial increase in the number of Intl accepted? Eg. of the entire undergrad pop in 2009, there were 1594 international students, right? So if they’re accepting 1200, are they expecting 516 to matriculate? Or is the yield typically lower for International?</p>
<p>PS Woody - Agreed.</p>
<p>The yield for International students is roughly 30%. Michigan is expecting 350 or so to matriculate.</p>
<p>You can get the number of enrolled internationals from the Common Data Set (Table B2 Enrollment by Racial/Ethnic Category). Internationals are lumped into the group “non-resident aliens”. Note that some of these non-resident aliens were from US schools.</p>
<p>Degree seeking non-resident aliens
< Year > <1st time, 1st year> <total ug=“”>
2010-11 … 264 … 1,578
2009-10 … 229 … 1,266
2008-09 … 245 … 1,317
2007-08 … 251 … 1,211</total></p>
<p>In the past few years, the average number of first-time/first-year non-resident aliens who actually ENROLLED (not matriculated) was around 250. I presume most of the additional non-resident aliens come in through transfers.</p>
<p>I also think that many international students take 5 years to graduate rather than 4 years. But I will revise my above statement. Michigan received almost 7,000 international applicants and of those, only 800 or so will be admitted. That’s 11%!</p>