<p>Read the fine print on residency. I don’t think it is easy for a dependent student to become certified as a resident. </p>
<p>A person above said their parents are moving to PA. I would guess their child should be instantly considered a resident at that point. Be sure to change car registrations, voter registration, tax fillings, car insurance etc. to the address PA ASAP.</p>
<p>It’s not easy to get in-state residency. We own property in PA, but because we don’t live there and it’s not our primary residence, we are paying OOS tuition.</p>
<p>For the person whose parents are moving to PA, I think there is “hope” (but not for the first year), but I the Admissions people look at it on a case-by-case basis.</p>
<p>Charlie, a person must have lived in PA as a permanent resident for at least 12 months prior to their initial enrollment at Penn State. This is on the PSU website. Most state schools will require you to take a year off from college, and sometimes 2 years, and sometimes pay income taxes in the state for that period as well, unless in some cases where your parents have not been claiming you as a dependent on their tax returns for some time. This ain’t easy.</p>
<p>I think kbiresearch’s requirements apply to a student who is trying to establish residency independent of his parents (who are living in another state). In eric2011’s case, he should qualify for in-state tuition after his parents have been living and working in the state for a year.</p>
<p>Actually, it is not about an independent student (though the tax filing stuff would help you to become independent). I think Charlie, like most OOS students, is probably coming to PA for the purpose of his education:
PENNSYLVANIA CLASSIFICATION
A student shall be classified as a Pennsylvania resident for tuition purposes if that student has a Pennsylvania domicile and that student’s presence in Pennsylvania is not primarily for educational purposes. Domicile is a person’s existing and intended fixed, permanent, and principal place of residence. A student whose presence in the Commonwealth is primarily for educational purposes shall be presumed to be a non-Pennsylvania resident for tuition purposes. The following are considerations that may be used by the University in determining whether a student is a resident for tuition purposes:</p>
<p>A student under the age of 21 is presumed to have the domicile of his/her parent(s) or legal guardian(s), unless the student has maintained continuous residence in the Commonwealth for other than educational purposes for a period of at least 12 months immediately prior to his/her initial enrollment at The Pennsylvania State University, and, the student continues to maintain such separate residence.
A student who has resided in the Commonwealth for other than educational purposes for at least a period of 12 months immediately preceding his/her initial enrollment at The Pennsylvania State University is presumed to have a Pennsylvania domicile.</p>
<p>I guess there may be a chance later in his PSU career for Eric (not Charlie, as I mistakenly said earlier!) but I think it will be one of the “case-by-case” reviews</p>
<p>I don’t see any reason why Eric would not be eligible for in-state tuition after his parents have lived in PA for one year. He will need to appeal for reclassification and provide a significant amount of documentation ([Penn</a> State Office of the Bursar - Residency Appeal](<a href=“http://www.bursar.psu.edu/appeal.cfm]Penn”>Residency Review | Office of the Bursar)).</p>
<p>I am under the impression that Charlie is an in-state student.</p>
<p>Yes I was just mixing the names up (Charlie & Eric). I still think it will be on a case-by-case basis after reading the FAQ’s regarding residency on the website. As we all know, they won’t give it away too easily.</p>
<p>So this question gets asked a lot, and I think the previous posts have cleared it up rather well. Keep in mind that, on a case by case basis, their means of evaluating where or not to grant the “in state” classification will depend on if it appears they are just trying to save money. If the student is financing their own education they may be lenient with this, but if the parents are paying the bills, don’t expect the same leniency.</p>
<p>As far as if it is worth it…if you are going to take career planing seriously, YES. Penn State has a huge network of alumni (the largest in the world)…so if you network well DURING YOUR FOUR (maybe five like me) YEARS you shouldn’t have a problem find a job that can pay for your tuition. Also, apply for scholarships and grants as much as possible…there is nothing to be paid back, and it can seriously reduce you’re cost of education. Also, if you apply to be an RA after you freshman year, room and board is FREE (for a maximum of two years I think).</p>
<p>I say all this because these are the things I DID NOT do, but hind sight is 20/20 right? I was lucky enough that my parents we able to pay most of the out of state tuition, and after four years, I only had 20,000 worth of debt. Unfortunately, I decided to take a fifth year, and pay for it myself, which more than doubled that number. Had I planned better, I would have been prepared for it.</p>
<p>I disagree; I do not feel they will be more lenient if the student is financing their own education. All they care about is whether or not the parents are residents of PA. Among the documentation required for reclassification is–</p>
<p>A formal letter written by the student requesting a review of his/her residency status and explaining why he/she should be considered a Pennsylvania resident for tuition purposes. </p>
<p>A complete copy of the registered deed or current, signed lease to the permanent domicile in Pennsylvania. A copy of the deed to the home may be obtained from the county court house. If the residence is leased/rented, the landlord should provide a lease. Depending on the term of the lease, more than one lease may have to be submitted to cover the last twelve (12) months.</p>
<p>A copy of the real estate listing or sales agreement to the previous domicile in the previous state of residence, if applicable.</p>
<p>A complete, signed copy of the most recent Pennsylvania Income Tax Return and Federal Income Tax Return.</p>
<p>A formal letter from the employer on their letterhead verifying full-time employment, date of hire or transfer, and the withholding of Pennsylvania income tax, if the change in domicile is due to a job relocation or offer of employment.</p>
<p>A copy of a recent pay stub, if prior year taxes were filed as a non-Pennsylvania resident.</p>
<p>1moremom, thx. From the website… It appears I should be able to change to In-state a year later. (w/ my parents moved to PA)… see item 1&2.</p>
<p>PENNSYLVANIA CLASSIFICATION
A student shall be classified as a Pennsylvania resident for tuition purposes if that student has a Pennsylvania domicile and that student’s presence in Pennsylvania is not primarily for educational purposes. Domicile is a person’s existing and intended fixed, permanent, and principal place of residence. A student whose presence in the Commonwealth is primarily for educational purposes shall be presumed to be a non-Pennsylvania resident for tuition purposes. The following are considerations that may be used by the University in determining whether a student is a resident for tuition purposes:</p>
<p>1.A student under the age of 21 is presumed to have the domicile of his/her parent(s) or legal guardian(s), unless the student has maintained continuous residence in the Commonwealth for other than educational purposes for a period of at least 12 months immediately prior to his/her initial enrollment at The Pennsylvania State University, and, the student continues to maintain such separate residence.
2.A student who has resided in the Commonwealth for other than educational purposes for at least a period of 12 months immediately preceding his/her initial enrollment at The Pennsylvania State University is presumed to have a Pennsylvania domicile.
3.A student who has not resided continually in Pennsylvania for a period of 12 months immediately preceding his/her initial enrollment at The Pennsylvania State University is presumed to have a non-Pennsylvania domicile.</p>
<p>Good luck! It looks like a lot of paperwork. I would start the process as early as possible.</p>
<p>Hopefully Eric’s parents are packing their bags now! I know from experience that this type of thing is much easier once you are classified as an independent student…and this will all be down the road in any case, not for Fall 2011.</p>
<p>Obviously you have to bring the appropriate paper work, all I meant was that if you have to meet with someone and get it approved, and for some reason there is a gray area…they may be willing to go the extra mile is the student is the one signing the checks to the university. I can’t say this for sure, have been there and graduated, I know there are ways around the bureaucracy if you are willing to work hard enough.</p>
<p>Have you read anything about the budget cuts Penn State is looking at right now?</p>
<p>Yes it is a big concern of mine right now re: potential tuition increase over the next 4 hrs. PSU remains one of my d’s top 3 choices and like many of you she’ll make her mind up in April.</p>
<p>I’m thinking of moving to PA–lol–just kidding…;)</p>
<p>I mean that @ warrior1183. I don’t think there are going to be “gray areas” as far as what tuition is owed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the new tuition levels probably won’t be announced until mid-summer, which makes it tough for people weighing these decisions.</p>
<p>I see this topic hasnt been posted in for several years. I am taking my son to see PSU on Friday (2/22/13). He (for now, anyway) is considering Industrial Engineering with a minor in business. IE’s are the lowest paid engineers coming out of college, but with a minor in business, we are hoping that if the gets his foot in the door as an IE, he can work his way up the corporate ladder, to the more financially lucrative jobs. We are NYS residents, and he was accepted to the University of Buffalo and got a $2500/yr scholarship. It is a HUGE price difference between PSU and UB, but if PSU opens more doors right out of school, then I may try and find the financial resources to get him there. Any feedback would be appreciated.</p>
<p>A favorite link on this forum is–
[Job</a> Recruiters Prefer State Universities Over Ivy League Colleges - WSJ.com](<a href=“Job Recruiters Prefer State Universities Over Ivy League Colleges - WSJ”>Job Recruiters Prefer State Universities Over Ivy League Colleges - WSJ)
It is getting a little dated.</p>
<p>More useful might be to look at the Engineering Career Fair page–
[Engineering</a> Career Fair | Engineering Career Week | Engineering Career Resources & Employer Relations](<a href=“http://www.engr.psu.edu/career/ecw/students/fair.aspx]Engineering”>http://www.engr.psu.edu/career/ecw/students/fair.aspx)
It includes info on-
“Who’s coming to this year’s Fair
Which majors companies are seeking
What types of opportunities are available (e.g., co-op, internship, full-time)”</p>
<p>I’m an OOS student and I think it’s worth it especially if you did 2 years at a branch campus because that will save you a ton of money. My first year, I actually attended a private school and my parents were paying big $$$. So I transfered to a PSU branch campus that was 5 minutes away from my old school and now it only costs my parents about 5, 000 a semester. Now when I get to U-Park those numbers will change drastically but at least it will only be for the two years instead of the 4. For my transfer school I narrowed it down to SUNY Binghamton or PSU and the choice for me was clear that I go to PSU, even though Binghamton would have been much cheaper because of the in state tuition. Thanks to PSUs geosci program I now have two majors instead of just one and I met great people here. SO if your parents can afford it or if you don’t mind taking out loans, go for PSU over the SUNYs !!! Especially Stony Brook. God I don’t know why anyone would go to that school. Oh and another good thing is to pick the cheapest meal plan, dorm, etc that way you save more money.</p>