<p>Michigan must be super racist.</p>
<p>I mean all I see is “multicultural” this or “diversity” that or posters about stereotypes and why Glee is racist or “workshops” about equality…</p>
<p>… Jesus Christ…</p>
<p>Racism has a broad definition with multiple perspectives that can lead to disagreements. I think blatant racism has generally faded compared to the 1950s (at least at the aggregate level). Back then, most universities were segregated, and African Americans had to attend different institutions, drink from separate water fountains, etc. It was the old “Jim Crow” system mostly present in the Deep South but also in practice in other parts of the country. That type of racism is not as prevalent as it used to be.</p>
<p>But there still is subtle racism. The best illustration of that is in dating. Many successful African American athletes tend to choose white girlfriends or wives. This is subtle racism based on white beauty standards. One time at the gym I heard an African American body builder say he “doesn’t like black women.” This guy habitually pursues blonde white college girls from the local university. It’s a sophisticated type of racism where as an African American he is discriminating against women from his own ethnicity with the perception that he feels they are not as pretty as white women (and so on). It’s sad, and I know it’s painful for minority women to see that. </p>
<p>Or other stereotypes can still exist. In border states, there is racial tension between Hispanics and whites regarding 1072. I know Arab American students still deal with racism. There is also reverse racism. I read an article about a white sprinter who said no one believed he was a competitive sprinter because he was white. The racist stereotype in his case is that whites are slow. In another case, elite Native American HS athletes generally did not get recruited for DI sports until recent times (unless they were part white and did not look Native American but white). So racism is complicated.</p>
<p>In general, the KKK type of attacks from the 1950s have faded, but subtle, complicated racism from different directions and people still exists. CU Boulder has racial tension because of the controversy over affirmative action, which narrowly was voted to remain back in 2008. This reflects the divide over the issue. So subtle racism is still a problem.</p>
<p>To anyone who thinks racism in modern-day America is still existent–wake up. That ended decades ago. Well, let me correct myself–yes, there is currently racism in America. However, now there is racism against whites in the form of affirmative action, etc. (Yes, affirmative action is racism.) Racism against non-whites ended a long time ago. Not to go too off-topic, but Martin Luther King Jr. would have opposed affirmative action. He dreamed of being judged by who you are and not by your skin color. Affirmative action means judging by skin color–so it is racist. </p>
<p>I do not care what “color” you are, I care what kind of person you are. And if you say, “Well, blacks or hispanics need these artificial advantages in order to even the playing field,” then you are insulting those minorities by implicitly saying they “need more help” than non-minorities (majorities?). Everything is equal now. By equal, I mean the American value of “equality of opportunity.” Whereas lots of people push for “equality of result,” which is a socialist/marxist value, not an American value. Don’t impose socialism on America.</p>
<p>Also, multiculturalism has been brought up in this thread. That is also racist. America has a founding value of “e pluribus unum”–“from many, one.” It means that we do not care what culture/country you came form, now you are an American. That is the melting pot. Multiculturalism is starkly opposed to the melting pot because it favors a resistance towards unity.</p>
<p>I do not refer to anyone as African-American or Mexican-American or anything hyphenated. You’re an American. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>Although blatant racism in the style of the 1950s has largely faded, it can still happen. Here is an example.
[Video</a> shows brutal racist attack on black man James Craig Anderson in Mississippi: prosecutors - New York Daily News](<a href=“http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-08-08/news/29885340_1_attorney-robert-shuler-smith-black-man-teens]Video”>http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-08-08/news/29885340_1_attorney-robert-shuler-smith-black-man-teens)</p>
<p>Affirmative action was outlawed in many states. I attend graduate school in a state where it was outlawed. I am minority and am aware of the tension it causes with whites who view it as reverse racism. I am honestly glad affirmative action is gone in my state because now I don’t have to deal with the angry white students who complain of reverse racism. I witnessed that in Colorado. They had “affirmative action” bake sales which got a lot of confrontation from people divided on the issue. I don’t miss those days.
[Affirmative</a> Action Bake Sale Part 1 - YouTube](<a href=“Affirmative Action Bake Sale Part 1 - YouTube”>Affirmative Action Bake Sale Part 1 - YouTube)</p>
<p>But there still is subtle racism. The best illustration… is right here on CC, when people complain about unfair advantages to URMs (usually overblown,) or make generalizations based on one or two URMs they know who just weren’t as smart as they are, but got further. Or even, hold themselves up as a model of equal thinking, then blow it in their explanation.</p>
<p>Reverse racism? The reverse of racism would be racial acceptance would it not?</p>
<p>Pretty dumb term.</p>
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<p>It is widely believed on these forums that highly selective universities’ affirmative action policies favor white applicants over Asian applicants, since white students are often underrepresented and Asian students are overrepresented at these highly selective universities.</p>
<p>I like lookingforward’s comment because it is based on realism. The problem with internet forums is that a discussion on race can just turn into internet flaming. Regardless of what you say, there is always someone who disagrees with it. For example, although I am minority I am comfortable that affirmative action is gone in my state. Because I don’t have to deal with the backlash. The angry white students who resent affirmative action will probably like my stance that affirmative action is gone. So they will likely be polite and receptive of me. By contrast, there are minorities out there who will accuse me of being a traitor and send me hate messages. I have experienced that on fb. I’m planning on deleting all my comments in a couple of days. Internet forums are polemic.</p>
<p>wiseone2011 Post # 12 wrote:</p>
<p>" To “Kcombs” just because people are liberal doesn’t mean they can’t be racist. The majority of people in Cambridge believe in the one drop rule. "</p>
<p>In this country you get treated preferentially if you can claim to be a ‘one-drop’ minority </p>
<p>[ see : <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13036649-post17.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13036649-post17.html</a> and
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13037100-post24.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13037100-post24.html</a> ]</p>
<p>… so you’d have to be <em>crazy</em> not to take advantage of this … consider it the ‘academic version’ of performance-enhancing drugs</p>
<p>To: be_somebody Post 15</p>
<p>You really gotta watch this video =></p>
<p>[Kung</a> Fooled](<a href=“Profitez de l'Offre de Bienvenue Paris Sportif et Gagnez Gros!”>Profitez de l'Offre de Bienvenue Paris Sportif et Gagnez Gros!)</p>
<p>Forgive me, but a prof quoting…her own posts. You started with a quote from an admissions VP, but it seems the rest is you-? When do we accept, “Well, I had a chat with…” or “I know someone who…” in order to state, “In this country you get treated preferentially if you can claim to be a ‘one-drop’ minority?” </p>
<p>Do you know that the 1/16 Cherokee girl got in because of that? Or was it sports? Or, was it a combo of those, stats and the rest of the app? Btw, 1/16 is the “blood quantum” requirement for enrollment in the Cherokee tribe. I don’t know if she was lying, but that’s the measure for that tribe.</p>
<p>Again, sorry, but the Harvard report does NOT say the majority of people in Cambridge believe in the one drop rule. It was a study done by Harvard professors.</p>
<p>ps. The Common App now does have a space for the tribal enrollment number.</p>
<p>I don’t think a lot of people realize they’re being racist. Some words have just become an everyday part of conversation even though they’re highly offensive. </p>
<p>But really, you’re going to find racism everywhere. It’s just not as bad in some areas as it is in others.</p>
<p>Re: lookingforward’s Post # 30 :</p>
<p>*“ps. The Common App now does have a space for the tribal enrollment number” *</p>
<p>Most of the larger tribes now use your SSN as your TEN</p>
<p>Princess, it’s the subtle racism that surprises even liberals, especially when they/we catch ourselves falling into some assumption. </p>
<p>Shannon- umm, I’d love to see a reference on that. The SSN essentially functions as a national id number, among other things, whereas a tribal enrollment number reflects citizenship in an Indian tribe or Nation. One requires proof of U.S. citizenship, your identity, etc. The other is based on the specific tribe’s requirements per it’s constitution- usually lineal descendency and can include tribal blood quantum (%) and more. But, we’re off the original topic.</p>
<p>Shannon, laughed my ass off watching the video. I’m going to attack random people on the street with my kung fu now.</p>
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<p>I’ve only ever heard “reverse discrimination.”</p>
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Not true. The <i>nonexistence</i> of racism would be “racial acceptance” or whatever convoluted term you want to use. The opposite of racism would simply be racism going the opposite direction. The opposite of “hot” is NOT “neutral temperature.”</p>
<p>A couple posters mentioned that they’re glad affirmative action is gone in their area because now they won’t get flack from “angry whites.” That’s absolutely the best point, although I’d disagree with the “angry white” characterization. AA is unfair to minorities because minorities who make accomplishments from their own merit automatically have their accomplishments subjectively “downgraded” because it is commonly assumed that they “only got it through AA.” Affirmative action only harms minorities.</p>
<p>*AA is unfair to minorities because minorities who make accomplishments from their own merit automatically have their accomplishments subjectively “downgraded” because it is commonly assumed that they “only got it through AA.” *</p>
<p>The “common assumption” that they only got it through AA… is racist. Saying we should drop AA because it’s a barrier to high-achieving URMs being recognized as high achievers on their own merit- could also be viewed as racist. Because, it assumes these top people can’t or don’t prove their worth in other ways.</p>
<p>See how our ideas can get us in a pickle? Even when one thinks he is being fair, he can still be categorizing, making assumptions, letting a few experiences be his guide, and on and on, based on race.</p>
<p>It can depend where yiu are, as far as how much more common it will be. Yes sadly it does happen, but I think it is in more “covered up” ways then someone making threats or screaming profanities towards you. the people who hate based off orgin, color, whatever are not worth your time anyways</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure that every single minority in the United States has experienced many forms of racism/discrimination, and it’s depressing and disgusting when well-off white people who have never faced a single day of discrimination or hardship in their entire lives claim that racism doesn’t exist. Racism is so ubiquitous and ingrained into our society and everyday lives that unless you are experiencing it, you aren’t even going to notice it.</p>
<p>Racism today is institutionalized and more hidden from society, but it’s just as bad (if not worse) than the days before the civil rights movement. Schools are more segregated today than fifty years ago. Minorities with equal or even better qualifications make much less money than whites in the same position. There was a somewhat recent study done by UChicago where they mailed fake resumes to multiple employers. Basically resumes with white names get a vastly higher callback rate than a similar resume with the same qualifications but with a black name.</p>
<p>In dating, black females and Asian males are at the very bottom of the totem pole - how often do you see a black woman with a white man, as opposed to a black man with a white women? Or an Asian man with a white woman, as opposed to a white man with an Asian woman? This isn’t just anecdotal - statistics from millions of interactions through OKCupid also confirms this: [How</a> Your Race Affects The Messages You Get OkTrends](<a href=“http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/]How”>http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/)</p>
<p>In regards to affirmative action, please educate yourself and watch this debate by Tim Wise, one of the most passionate and articulate anti-racism activist in this day and age: [Affirmative</a> Action Debate: Tim Wise (3 of 14) - YouTube](<a href=“Affirmative Action Debate: Tim Wise 3/14- Intelligence Squared U.S. - YouTube”>Affirmative Action Debate: Tim Wise 3/14- Intelligence Squared U.S. - YouTube)</p>
<p>The issues behind affirmative action are a lot more complicated than most people realize, and Tim Wise explains it a lot better than I can. Some of the better points are:
• The entire history of the United States has been (and still is) affirmative action for white people.
• For every minority student who got into a school through affirmative action, there are at least two white kids who got in through family connections or rich donor parents.</p>
<p>And honestly, if you don’t think racism is still an issue today, just drive a car that’s stereotypically attributed to black people around in a white neighborhood, and watch how often you get pulled over. Just google “driving while black”. There’s a reason why that phrase exists.</p>
<p>How the hell did this thread turn into an AA debate. </p>
<p>AA debate #2,344.</p>