<p>I'm worried as my daughter was unable to score 800 on any one of these two SAT IIs. Are these enough or should she lower her schedule for her junior year to put more emphasis on the SAT1.</p>
<p>I'll appreciate any good advice.</p>
<p>it's fine, it doesn't guarantee that she will be accepted though, nothing does</p>
<p>I'm not looking for guarantee but just that she has a good shot at the top schools.</p>
<p>780 and 770 are both great scores. Relax.</p>
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By all means, don't compromise real academics to focus on an admissions test.</p>
<p>These are high scores, especially if your daughter is only a sophomore. "Lowering her schedule" for junior year to chase higher scores could be self-defeating, if you mean taking fewer APs, or dropping significant ECs. If you are "worried" about your daughter's inability to score 800 on an SAT II, you are way too focused on scores.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone, I might have been too focused on 800 on SATIIs. Actually I never thought that she wouldn't be able to score 800 on SAT II Math 2C. She had always been a good math student scoring in the 99 percentile range.
But I got the point, I will take my mind off the 800 and encourage her to do her best.</p>
<p>I know that anecdotes aren't evidence, but if it makes you feel any better, I scored 700 on Math II and 710 on Chemistry, and I'm going to Dartmouth. THOSE ARE EXCELLENT SCORES. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.</p>
<p>I think I need to back down as my daughter didn't tell the scores to me today as she thought I won't be happy. I need to encourage her that these are very good score. I did talk to her telling that I'm very happy for her but I think she is still not happy. I need to be more realistic here.
I think my wife is also very obsessive with 800, so it is hard on our daughter. I need to convince my wife too which is a little harder.</p>
<p>You may be thinking that these scores were not good enough because you are accustomed to seeing your daughter's scores falling in the 99th percentile. These are not that high when you look at percentiles rankings only because the tests are taken by a select group of students. If they were taken by all high school kids, she would be in the 99+ percentile. Your daughter's scores are excellent scores-even 800s on both these exams don't fall into the 99th percentile, so it really is a relatively small group of top students taking these particular exams. I hope my daughter does as well when she takes hers!</p>
<p>POIH, those are great scores. The courseload at Junior and Senior year counts more than the SAT II subject scores. I know it's great confidence builder to have 800 first time but other than that it's not worth it. Note the more subject test your D has to take in one day, the less chance your D has to get perfect score on both subjects.</p>
<p>POIT, I also found this thread to be very helpful. It jives with what I read and what D High school counselor is saying. The AdOfficer provides a perspective from the admission office point of view.</p>
<p>Thanks TooRichForAid but the thread justifies the feeling. If there are girls out there with 800 on both SATIIs then they will be preferred over my daughter if other things are comparable.
I at least know of one girl at my D's school in the 2007-2008 batch that has 800 on both these tests.</p>
<p>Those scores would be above average at ANY school.</p>
<p>i think you should throw your daughter a party lol. </p>
<p>Those scores are amazing, colleges really don't view too much of a difference between an 800 and a 780 or 770 anyway. I really hope you didn't tell your daughter that you were disappointed or wanted her to retake those scores, because that's only going to hurt her in the long run. It's good that parents push their kids and are involved, but if they tried hard then you should praise their results and only have them retake if it is by THEIR choice because THEY think they can do better.</p>
<p>The "not good enough" complex is one of the hardest things that a teenager can deal with.</p>
<p>I agree with Tyler09 - those scores are too good to take over. Your daughter would look obsessed (although I'm sure college admissions officers are all too aware of obsessed parents, so they might not actually hold it AGAINST her). But it will look like SOMEONE doesn't know when to be satisfied. As Tyler09 said, there is no real difference between scores in the 770-800 range.</p>
<p>POIH, my reading is that if it's above 700 or may 730(it depends on where you read) then it's above the mark to be considered for top schools, after that everything else(EC's, GPA, course load, and other non-tangible stuffs) will be considered.
For example, it's like for a job interview, if you have 3.5 and above you will get invited for an interview but other factors such as your interview skills, how personable you are, your height, your looks, technical skills, how well you think on your feet, or who you know, etc.. tons of stuff that make a difference in whether you get a job offer or not.</p>
<p>I'm not really trying to talk anybody from retaking any subject test because I know there are some diehards out there that will. Even if your D get 800 on all subject test, that is still not a guarantee for those top schools like HYP.</p>
<p>POIH: The 780 Chem is an awesome score. There is basically no margin for error to get an 800 on the Chem, so it is considered basically the equivalent of a perfect score. Anyone can make a dumb error on an exam. The 770 on Math2C is good for the ivies, although if the curve is the same as when I took it then it is much easier to get an 800 on this one. Unless they changed the curve from when I took it (which is possible), you could miss 6 questions and still get an 800. So a large chunk of people got 800 when I took it (~25% I think). Everyone I knew got an 800. </p>
<p>However, the math SATI was not curved as generously, so if you got even one wrong you didn't get an 800. If she got in the 750-800 range on the SATI, that will basically tell the colleges that she has hit the ceiling for mathematical ability that is tested on the SATI and SATII. (What were her SATI scores?) Basically, the SATI math used to be graded much harsher and had the same content as the Math IIC, so they will look more at the SATI math.</p>
<p>Again, you should check how the test is graded (conversion of raw score to score out of 800) as well as the percentile. I don't want to scare you, but I'm fairly sure 800 used to be the median score at CalTech and MIT for MathIIC. MIT's standards have relaxed a bit since I applied though.</p>
<p>Either way, I would not suggest taking them again. She will look obsessive about it. </p>
<p>For reference, I got a 780 on Chem and 800 on MathIIC, and I got into MIT and CalTech so I certainly wouldn't worry about the chem score.</p>
<p>ParentofIvyHope, you are kind of ridiculous. Why dont you focus on your own life and not be so obsessive, it's not appealing.</p>
<p>Is this for real?? Most trolls aren't even like this...</p>
<p>I get annoyed at parents who think it's their duty in life to get their children into Harvard or Yale. While they might be successful, it almost definately wont be in the best interest of the child in the short and long run.
Harvard /= definite happiness in life.</p>