Is Syracuse known to be generous with aid?

Why would be it be too risky to apply without HEOP? Trying to understand. Before someone else tells me I can’t help out a friend, she’s disabled and can’t do this on her own

Because asking questions for a friend isn’t allowed (I don’t make or enforce the rules). The student can make a CC account, no?

Yes, if they back out of the ED agreement they can apply elsewhere ED2, but the HS GC would have to agree and they might be wary of that for obvious reasons.

Are there any meet full need schools on the list? What are the SUNY/CUNY choices? Are any commutable from home?

I agree it’s sad, there was even a kid who was helping out a friend stuck abroad in a horrible situation, whose electricity had been shut down and had no internet, and that thread was shut down. But they’re the TOS and we can’t do anything about it so we wanted to warn you that it might happen :(. I don’t know if there’s an exception for a disabled adult who can’t do it on their own. (However, sometimes “asking for a friend” turns out to be “pretending to ask for someone else but I was really asking for myself”, and if the poster comes clean to the mods it’s okay. I think. :frowning: )

Yes he can apply ED2 elsewhere but not all universities offer ED2.
Most importantly, a lower income kid applying to a meet need university will get the best deal whereas “don’t meet need” universities often use scholarships to incentivize students they want, but they don’t need to with ED.
Some “meet need” universities fill their class with ED1 candidates, so that his best shot as a gifted, high-need applicant may be applying ED1 to one of those.
The HUGE difference is that when you apply ED to a “meet need” university, they promise to cover your financial need if they admit you. Syracuse can admit someone and say “if you can’t pay, not our problem” (that’s what “doesn’t meet need” means, in reality).
HEOP helps at NYS, need unmet universities because the State helps, so that these universities have an incentive. Anyway I just checked (the conditions seemed strange) and Syracuse seems to limit its HEOP program to part-time, returning adults. So there’d be no incentive to provide him with sufficient aid.

What does he want to major in?
Why Syracuse?
There may well be dozens of colleges that may match what he wants from Syracuse AND meet need. win-win. :slight_smile:

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Closing for that reason. The family friend or their child needs their own account to ask questions. One reason for the rule is the thread devolves into a game of telephone. The second is privacy; we have no idea if the friend wants their info thrown out on the internet. For those reasons, users are allowed to ask questions about themselves and their dependents only.

In consultation with the admin, I am reopening this thread subject to future review. I ask the OP be mindful of the Forum Rules and not reveal personal information about the friend.

Public posts about others (i.e. asking for a friend) are subject to review by staff and may be closed, especially any containing personal information. For more information, please see our privacy policy.
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If alive, the student will have to request a non-custodial parent waiver from Syracuse’ financial aid office.

The waiver request is at https://cssprofile.collegeboard.org/pdf/css-profile-waiver-request-non-custodial-parent.pdf . How likely a specific college is to grant a waiver may not be the same as for some other college.

Recommend that you advise the student to make their own account. The parent can also make their own account (separate from the student) as well. In addition to the privacy issues that the forum rules are concerned about, you being an intermediary increases the chance of inaccurate information getting passed in either direction (“game of telephone”).

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The full ride scholarship is called the 1870 scholarship. It’s nice because when tuition goes up the scholarship covers that as well.

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It’s a single-disabled mother with two children. Her son is deciding between Syracuse and one other school.

Are they in NYS? I think that income qualifies them for the full NYS tuition grant (TAP). The full Pell and federal student loan would get them enough to commute. If the student can work they might be able to swing dorming at a SUNY.

If the student has high stats Vassar might be a possibility. I think they meet need for low income students.

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Seconding Vassar for a very low-income, high-achieving student!