<p>Past six Secretaries of State for Democratic Presidents:</p>
<p>Hillary Rodham Clinton, Yale Law
Warren Christopher, Stanford Law
Madeleine Albright, Columbia PhD
Edmund Muskie, Cornell Law
Cyrus Vance, Yale Law
Dean Rusk, Berkeley Law</p>
<p>Past six Secretaries of State for Democratic Presidents:</p>
<p>Hillary Rodham Clinton, Yale Law
Warren Christopher, Stanford Law
Madeleine Albright, Columbia PhD
Edmund Muskie, Cornell Law
Cyrus Vance, Yale Law
Dean Rusk, Berkeley Law</p>
<p>dheldreth: My comments were not directed to you or your D. At least your D has a plan to pay off/satisfy her debt. Presumably, she recognizes the trade offs both career and life-wise to enlist right out of school. If she follows through, her service is to be applauded. In contrast, we are starting to see state bar associations refusing to allow law school graduates to take the bar exam or be licensed when they are in default on their enormous student loans. The blatant defaults with no plan to repay flies in the face of the “moral fitness” required for licensure, or so the argument goes.</p>
<p>As for the “child” comment, ask any parent how they refer to their children regardless of age. Of course, you can’t require a so-called adult (many of whom have never supported themselves, paid rent or taxes…) to follow your advice, but you sure can offer it. “Strongly discourage” would be a more proper usage than “not let.”</p>
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Your daughter has a long process ahead of her. She has to get through OCS and get through TBS; none of which are going to be easy.</p>
<p>Dangit, I broke my PM system. Let’s try something else.</p>
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<p>Again, this was true of virtually every un- or under-employed law school grad currently being crushed by debt. Anyone in law school has to have been at least modestly successful, having been admitted to and graduated from college with grades that were at least decent. </p>
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<p>I don’t know a lot about the veterinary market, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near as oversaturated as the legal market. And in the absolute worst-case scenario, I would imagine your husband’s debt could have been discharged in bankruptcy. Student loan debt cannot.</p>
<p>Not negative or unrealistic?</p>
<p>For the most part, super low-ranked law schools are so not worth it. Sorry :(</p>
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<p>Debt - the killer of choice. It is admirable to want to save the world, but a law degree is not necessary to make that effort. There are plenty of opportunities for public service, and the vast majority of them are not furthered with a law degree. Unfortunately, many people have an idea of what it’s like to practice law that could not be further from reality. As Blue Devil Mike says, mock trials and moot court are not even remotely comparable to practicing law. My advice to those considering law school these days is to take on zero debt unless you’re going to a T14 and are willing to work in biglaw for several years paying off debt. During that time, they need to live as if they are making a third of what they are so they can both pay off debt and save enough to be able to throw off the golden handcuffs. It is sad to hear from attorneys day after day who want to work fewer hours, find more rewarding work or relocate… but …they can’t take a pay cut. All I can think is “good luck with that.”</p>