Is this a bad "raw" PSAT score for a sophomore?

<p>When I say raw, I mean that I went in cold and without studying. And no, I'm not gonna be those obnoxious CCers that tell you "I got a 200 PSAT score as a freshmen, is that bad?" </p>

<p>I got a 162. All I know is that I did better than 90-something percent of college-bound sophomores in critical reading, better than 80-something percent in writing, and better than 70-something percent in math. I'm a year ahead in math as well, and I took the exam in November. Personally, I think I could definitely improve it because I had some crappy time management, but I basically scored from the low to high 50's in all categories. </p>

<p>When I compared it to everyone I spoke to, I did better than most, even a guy that got a 66 in math, but I heard (on CC, so bear with me) that a lot of people go in cold and get 180's easily. I didn't have any anxiety (actually I was really relaxed), I was just kind of tired and hungry, but I guess standardized tests just come more easily to some than others. Due to the percentiles I know this is an "above average" score for sophomores, but I'm trying to get a little better than that (maybe even qualify for NMSQT next year). I don't know if it's really possible to jump up that many points with just studying and more high school experience.</p>

<p>Not bad at all, a lot of people consider me really good at math but I got worse compared to most people on this website. Don’t stress out about it. With good preparation you could easily get the score you want. I know lots of very smart people at my school who got in the 161-166 range. Don’t let a test score or CC put you down.</p>

<p>Depends on your expectations</p>

<p>It doesn’t matter if this is a bad score or not. What matters is whether you can improve it enough to have an SAT score that makes you competitive at the colleges you apply to (if necessary).</p>

<p>It honestly depends on your perspective about colleges and how competitive you are.
Those “obnoxious” CCers you speak of probably have a few Ivy League colleges in mind, so that is why they are genuinely disappointed with only a 200 as a Freshman- most Ivy Leaguers often grab 225+ simply due to aptitude in test-taking.</p>

<p>But let’s talk about your case. Your score of 162 is considered very good for the average student- unless you are aiming to apply to an Ivy League school. A score in the 162 range is really nice for a Sophmore who will use a Community College as backup and at best apply to a top state university.
However, unfortunately, if you view your score from a competitive standpoint, all I can say is that it would severely disappoint the person. </p>

<p>My point is, judge yourself based on your goals. It’s okay to feel bad if you have high goals, but if you have average goals, then it’s best to feel proud of your achievement.</p>

<p>I personally obtained a 209 in Freshman year and was incredibly disappointed- I had been aiming for a 220.</p>

<p>You’re fine, you’re only a sophomore. Don’t worry about it; study more and you’ll be fine</p>

<p>I did worst then you, but, I’m not too worried about it. I’ll study way harder next time for the SAT and you can do it too. My score was 144 which is terrible, in my opinion. I didn’t study, and, now I know what I need to work on. </p>

<p>If it makes you feel any better, here are my section scores: 63 for critical reading, 34 for math (horrible, I know) and 47 in writing skills.</p>

<p>I would ignore Bipolar Buddhist. Getting a a sub-200 PSAT score sophomore year doesn’t mean anything for your future if you can improve. I’m applying to Ivies, but any kid who comes to me complaining about a 200+ score their freshman year needs to go chill the heck out. I don’t know where you want to go, but as long as you work hard, you can improve your score. You have a year to improve, so use that year to your advantage (especially if you’re aiming for NMSQT). To be honest, if you want to go to an Ivy, a 162, equivalent to about a 1620, isn’t on par, but it’s your sophomore year. You have 2 years to take the SAT. Work hard. It’s far from impossible, but it will require work.</p>

<p>Same as above, Bipolar Buddhist is talking out of his ___.</p>

<p>It is not a bad score at all! Generally, it translates into an SAT score of around 1620.
According to College Board, the average SAT score was a 1498 (combining the average CR, Writing, and Math scores), which includes many older students. You should be very proud.
Also, bad/good are subjective. I know people who were disappointed with a PSAT of 180 and one friend who was disappointed by her 2370 on the SAT. Personally, I think both of those scores are fantastic!
It also depends on your own standards. If you’re looking at Ivy League schools, you would have to bring your score up in order to be competitive. Your score is also bound to increase with more math. Remember that the regular SAT is designed for college bound seniors and juniors, so unless you’ve completed a math designed for 11th-12th grade students, you probably haven’t covered all of the topics!</p>

<p>Be proud.</p>

<p>Fantastic score for someone who is going in completely raw. Whenever you take a standardized test for the first time, it’ll suck. I remember the first time I took a practice SAT (completely raw), I did terrible on it, but when I finally took the real one, my SAT score went up by 800 points (no joke)</p>

<p>I know i’m always around people who say that they never bother studying for the SAT and manage to get a 2300+, but honestly, most of them if not all of them are liars. Dont fall into the trap of not studying for the SATs because people around you are saying that they aren’t going to study for them.</p>

<p>I took the PSAT freshman and sophomore years. I got 172 both times. On my third take (junior year), I got 215. </p>

<p>I think you definitely can bring it up. I got a 2310 on the SAT in November, senior year. </p>

<p>Freshman and sophomore years, I didn’t study at all. In junior year, I really started studying vocab and just doing a LOT of practice math problems.</p>

<p>No, it’s not bad at all. You will probably do much better on the real SAT with practice.</p>

<p>The teenage brain is developing rapidly at your age. Our son went from a 183 sophomore year to a 215 his junior year, and without any studying for the exam.</p>

<p>BipolarBuddha: Trying not to reiterate what other said, I hardly believe people planning to go to CC get a 162 on their sophomore year PSAT because they don’t even take the PSATS (especially sophomore year). Maybe you go to a private school or something, because I thought most people who are surrounded by <em>some</em> sub-par students would know that.</p>

<p>But I’ll study hard for the real PSAT, and SAT, and hopefully I’ll have a competitive score. I also just discovered Khan Academy, and I actually am remembering the days before dull teachers when I used to like math. I was just hoping to hear that it’s possible.</p>

<p>@CallMeC:</p>

<p>First of all, if I did not openly make it clear in my previous post, to make it clear, I did not desire a critical, harsh, or in any way “superior” motive with what I said. If I came around to be a bit arrogant and ignorant, my apologies for the misunderstandings.</p>

<p>Throughout my high school years, I’ve personally been immersed in a privileged preparatory private high school. Most of my fellow friends and scholarly acquaintances have also been students to elite North American private institutions. However, I do have connections and ample relations with public school students as well, and I cannot stress any further that many are equal in intellectual ability and score just as well on the PSATs.</p>

<p>In truth, I believe that it depends on which type of environment of public schooling that you are situated in. A sophisticated public school that aims for pro-90% matriculation to a college will definitely impose the PSATs on Junior students, if not earlier. Given that the average score on the PSAT is a 144, you did incredibly well with an 162 as only a Sophomore. This is the case with decent public schools.
However, in less educational and privileged cities and towns across the US, the situation is not the same. Many public schools do not even offer the chance to take the PSAT, and thus apply for a scholarship. Even in the tiny pool of those who do, you have to consider that there are many sub-144 scores given that cause the average score to be 144. But those scores, although they do not directly indicate success in college applications, are indirectly related to a student’s insight on priorities- there is a larger majority of students who receive pro-220 on Sophomore/Junior PSATs that attend Ivies than those who receive sub-200s. While there is no clear or definite relationship, it is in the logic of common sense that such precocious students actively seek to boost their changes of admission to college as early as they can, and thus attempt to evidently reaffirm their success and ability through pre-college achievement examinations such as the PSAT.</p>

<p>I myself have, like many others on CC Forums, have sought to apply to a prestigious Ivy League college, and thus adopted such strict standards upon myself. But as many of us can tell you, these standards are more self-deprecating than superiorly affirmative- we don’t intend to assert ourselves as superior to others by showcasing our high scores, but we do allow ourselves to stress over any unacceptable Ivy-standard score, which, in comparison to the less-high goals student’s standards, is much higher, and unknowingly become callous and insensitive to the regular student’s standards. Thus is the reason why I’m playing the Devil’s Advocate here and taking your recent score from a private school/Ivy-league applicant’s stance. Sophomore year is already a vital time to start pursuing your college dreams, and it is undeniable that that is the reason why you are posting on a matriculation discussion forum, is it not?</p>

<p>In defense to those who believe I am crazy, you are simply being ignorant of the facts. I know many people who argue about a 200+ score on the PSAT that are from America, but I also know many more who WOULD contemplate failure for a 220+ score on the PSAT from international countries (PSAT is not offered internationally). The educational and scholarly competition in India, China, etc is more than tenfold than in the United States. To those who apply to Ivies from overseas, a 220+ Merit Scholar on the PSAT is a simple achievement- they follow up with several self-study APs and perfect IB scores and still seek to bolster their application with winning state/national category awards and attaining noteworthy success. To these disciplinarians, a sub-200 PSAT score would be considered anything next to a failure.</p>

<p>@BipolarBuddhist: Lol, it’s OK and I see what you mean.</p>

<p>Lolol bioplar buddhist just shhhhh</p>

<p>@OP 162 is fine. As a junior I got like a 190 and that went up to 220 senior year. You’ll improve</p>

<p>I got a 182 as a sophomore (which is not an especially great score), and I’m at the top of my class with a 4.71 GPA. The thing is that usually people don’t study for the PPSAT so it’s okay not to get a really good score because there’s time to study and improve if you want to take the PSAT junior year. But just do a little studying, and you should be where you want. :)</p>