<p>I got accepted to Rose-Hulman. Is it a good college for math? If I want to go to medical school, would it make sense for me to go here? I heard that the teaching is very good, and its ranked very well.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Rose is such an awesome school. I went to Catapult (engineering camp) this summer and met some really cool people. Three or four of our coonsuolers(spelling?) were BME's (bio-medical engineering) and planned on going to medical/graduate school after they graduating. Every says its really tough, but completely worth it. Its really expense, but completely worth every dollar (all 42,850 lol).</p>
<p>Hope this helps. If you can go, i really think you should. If I have 20,000 dollars to offset the tuition I would definitely go. Even if I cant though I still might go. I hope my enthusiatism is coming off, I really looovvveee this school.</p>
<p>Theyve been ranked #1 in US News as the Best Engineering school for the past 7 years.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot. This is where I want to go also. My parents think that it is too "geeky and isolated." And the professors are all from Indiana. Anybody else have opinions?</p>
<p>Then how come the acceptance rate is so high? You would think that if it is very good in engineering, that they would have a higher selectivity rate.</p>
<p>It might just be because a lot of people are biased against the midwest; who wants to choose Terre Haute for four years?</p>
<p>Seems as though everyone wants to be on the East Coast or in California...the rest is "fly over country."</p>
<p>Many people do not know of Rose. The people that learn about Rose are those who are targeted by the school itself. Therefore, most people who apply have the credentials to be accepted.</p>
<p>All I can tell you is my sons concerns. He has been accepted and also to RPI. Eventhough Rose is so highly rated and such a good school he may not attend due to many issues. I think these same issues are part of the reason they need to have a higher acceptance rate to fill there enrollment. We know that Rose has many advantages and we really liked it when we visited. However, we live in NJ and the distance is the first problem. The location and distance to a metropolitan area is another. Rose is a 1.5+ hr drive to Indianapolis, while others similar schools have better locations (Cooper Union in NYC, Harvey Mudd in So. Cal, CMU in Pittsburgh). The cold is another (I know RPI is also cold, but at least it is near ski resorts). Rose is known primarily in the midwest for jobs and future endeavors. Scholarships aren't as good as other schools. Male/Female ratio is even worse than other tech schools.</p>
<p>Think about it, RHIT is less selective than Cornell, for instance, yet produces MUCH BETTER engineers and more successful alum. WHY? Well, look at admissions. They don't wait till March to line everyone up. They reward those that apply early and who meet their proven guidelines with an almost immediate acceptance. The classrooms are small and intimate, the campus is beautiful and the students are a tight knit community. </p>
<p>I met Dr. Hariri of the ChemE department (head) and he was the most personable and (I felt) the best experienced in his field than the professors I met at GA Tech, Purdue, and Cornell. He also had a valuable asset, job experience working at Eli Lily. </p>
<p>The students are exposed to labs earlier than any other school I have looked at, the labs are HUGE and VERY organized and clean. There are numerous experiments available for students and they are encouraged to take advantage of the opportunities. </p>
<p>The Co-op program is great, good pay as well for those fainting over cost. </p>
<p>Now then, RHIT is my second choice, and I can't go even though I was accepted (in October mind you!) because I received acceptance to the School I have been dreaming to attend for ten years: the US Air Force Academy. </p>
<p>With that, I bear yall (yes I'm Texan) adieu.</p>
<p>To be quite honest, the admissions process at Rose is a bit weird. I've found that they tend to weigh early applications and high school grades a bit more heavily than things such as SAT scores. Perhaps this has something to do with its perceived prestige (i.e. SAT scores aren't as high as some would like).</p>
<p>A prime example of this is my friend Chris. He got a 1590 on the old SATs and was a VERY smart guy. He definitely had more raw talent than I did in terms of mathematics. He could do calculations in his head much faster than I, and he grasped BC Calc quite quickly. However, Chris wasn't a great student. He did not study very much and played video games constantly. I, however, was a better student. I was more diligent in my studies and worked harder than he in high school. I ended up with a much better GPA and class rank, but a lower SAT score.</p>
<p>I applied VERY early to Rose, and I got my acceptance letter in October or some crazy early time like that. Chris got a rejection letter in the Spring.</p>
<p>I fully realize that this is just an anecdotal example, but I think that this will apply in general to Rose. I guess that they've found that engineering is more about hard work than it is about raw talent. Obviously the two are important, but I guess they feel hard work is important. This idea alone will skew the SAT scores down a bit. Perhaps this has something to do with its perceived prestige, about which you're asking.</p>
<p>ANYway, that's one of the many reasons some might not see Rose as "prestigious" as MIT or CalTech.</p>
<p>To actually answer the OP's question: I don't know how great rose is for math majors. I'm an engineer, and the two fields are pretty different. If you shoot me a PM, I might be able to set you up with one or two freshmen math major friends of mine. They're two of the smartest guys I've ever met, by the way. I know we've got a good department...I'm just not sure how great it is compared to our engineering department. From personal experience, I've taken Calc III and DE from our math department, and I thought each class was VERY good...much better than almost all my high school math classes. </p>
<p>To address some other points made below:</p>
<p>It is true that Rose is kinda out in the middle of nowhere. However, this does NOT mean that social life is nonexistent. About half the campus is Greek, and I have many friends who are VERY busy with frats and such. There are also many parties each weekend at Indiana State University right down the street. Clubs are also popular here...I was in a drama club production last fall, and I LOVED it. I met tons of new people. Another freshman on my hall is doing 3D modelling and some body work for the Efficient Vehicle Club. He absolutely adores working on the car.</p>
<p>And,when you think about it, you'll really be too busy with schoolwork to notice that you're on the outskirts of a small town.</p>
<p>In terms of the weather: I'm from Memphis, TN, and I handled this winter pretty well. Granted, it was a mild one, but I really didn't feel too terribly uncomfortable. Freshman year, your dorms are REALLY close to the classrooms (especially if you're in DEMING!!!). You're out in the cold for literally 45 seconds to a minute in many cases. Learn to layer, and you'll be just fine! :)</p>
<p>Hornetguy: It's funny that you mention labs. Some of us wish we'd never heard of 'em freshman year! That's because some lab instructors grade very strictly, so we're forced to learn how to keep a great lab book. It's been quite a blessing, for I've learned heaps, although it's been a bit painful! I'm sure that most engineering schools will have labs freshman year, though...but I've never done research into other schools' labwork.</p>
<p>PLANTREE: About Rose's reputation: we are actually well-known around the US, especially in academic circles. When I visited Cornell, I was talking to a civil engineering professor about Rose, and he mentioned that it was one of the best engineering schools in terms of teaching. I talked to the President of the engineering school at UIUC, and he had good things to say, as well.</p>
<p>You are right about the guy/girl ratio. It's...yeah, it's depressing. HOWEVER, there are tons of girls at ISU and Saint-Marys of the Woods College. I personally am not too bothered with the lack of girls: people are getting married much later these days, and I really want to focus on getting a solid foundation in engineering more than anything else right now. I tend to get carried away with my passions, so a girlfriend would just be distracting right now.</p>
<p>Sorry for such a long post, guys! Hopefully I'll clean it up and make it meander less.</p>
<p>Dilligence is of the utmost importance in engineering, no matter what school you go to engineering is usually the "hardest" major. Even at a tier 3 school, the students are going to be really bright, whereas everybody else may be bad students, so at a school like Rose Hulman, if you are a very hard worker, and your grades reflect that, and you have the requisite natural apptitude, you get in probably, and more than likely graduate. Whereas, very few people are going to graduate from Rose-Hulman, just on pure brains.</p>
<p>RHIT is a great school. I am now working at a great firm down in Orlando, FL after graduating with a BSEE in 2005.</p>
<p>There's a lot to mention about the experience, and like everything in life, it had its ups and downs. One of the first downs that many will have to adjust to is the intensity of an engineering curriculum. There's no way around it, and its almost impossible to prepare for. But RHIT has just the right balance of empathy, personalized attention, and incredible focus that can cause some incredibly intelligent people to work together and bloom.</p>
<p>Concerning prestige and recognition, there aren't a lot of people down here in FL that have heard of my school. But I know that the efforts of alumni all around the country are going to move RHIT from the amazing school amoungst those in academia and in the engineering world, to the pop culture phenom and instant name recognition that some schools like MIT garner.</p>
<p>I like the fact that RHIT has a clear focus on providing the best UNDERGRADUATE education you can buy. I believe it too, I had too many good SMART friends that went to Purdue (another great school) and didn't make it through. If they were put in the environment of more personalized attention and such that RHIT embodied, they would have.</p>
<p>Anyways, good to hear the interest from those who are looking on to a career in math, science, and engineering.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
<p>Oh and I forgot to address the original question. I don't know how many goto RHIT knowing that med school is their first option after undergrad, but I knew quite a few that ended up going (maybe 4 in my class), and my experience with the biology department (2 classes) was very positive. I don't know about the labs and equipment because I don't have much to compare it to.</p>
<p>jgoebel</p>
<p>Somebody has heard of the school --
Here are USNWR list for those schools where no graduate (or minimal graduate) program exists:</p>
<p>Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Rank/School Peer
assessment
score
( 5.0 = highest)
1. Harvey Mudd College (CA) 4.5
1. Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN) 4.5
3. Cooper Union (NY) 4.2
4. Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo * 4.0
5. United States Military Academy (NY)* 3.9
5. United States Naval Academy (MD)* 3.9
7. Bucknell University (PA) 3.8
7. United States Air Force Acad. (CO)* 3.8
9. Embry Riddle Aeronautical U. (FL) 3.6
9. Villanova University (PA) 3.6
11. Kettering University (MI) 3.4
11. Lafayette College (PA) 3.4
11. Milwaukee School of Engineering 3.4
11. Swarthmore College (PA) 3.4
11. United States Coast Guard Acad. (CT)* 3.4
16. Calif. State Poly. Univ.–Pomona * 3.3
16. Rowan University (NJ)* 3.3
16. San Jose State University (CA)* 3.3
16. Union College (NY) 3.3
20. Baylor University (TX) 3.2
20. Bradley University (IL) 3.2
20. Embry Riddle Aeronautical U.–Prescott (AZ) 3.2
20. Santa Clara University (CA) 3.2
20. Valparaiso University (IN) 3.2
25. Gonzaga University (WA) 3.1
25. Loyola Marymount University (CA) 3.1
25. Smith College (MA) 3.1
25. Univ. of Colo.–Colorado Springs * 3.1
25. University of San Diego 3.1
25. Virginia Military Institute * 3.1
31. California State U.–Los Angeles * 3.0
31. St. Louis University 3.0
31. Trinity University (TX) 3.0
31. U.S. Merchant Marine Acad. (NY)* 3.0
31. University of Michigan–Dearborn * 3.0
31. University of Portland (OR) 3.0
31. Webb Institute (NY) 3.0
38. Boise State University (ID)* 2.9
38. California State U.–Northridge * 2.9
38. The Citadel (SC)* 2.9
38. Manhattan College (NY) 2.9
38. Mercer University (GA) 2.9
38. Miami University–Oxford (OH)* 2.9
38. Northern Arizona University * 2.9
38. University of Detroit Mercy 2.9
38. University of Minnesota–Duluth * 2.9
47. California State U.–Long Beach * 2.8
47. California State U.–Sacramento * 2.8
47. Calvin College (MI) 2.8
47. Indiana U.-Purdue U.–Fort Wayne * 2.8
47. Ohio Northern University 2.8
47. Penn State–Erie, Behrend Col. * 2.8
47. Purdue University–Calumet (IN)* 2.8
47. Seattle University 2.8
47. Trinity College (CT) 2.8
47. University of St. Thomas (MN) 2.8
57. Cedarville University (OH) 2.7
57. Hofstra University (NY) 2.7
57. Oregon Inst. of Technology * 2.7
57. Texas Christian University 2.7
57. Univ. of Arkansas–Little Rock * 2.7
57. Univ. of Massachusetts–Dartmouth * 2.7
57. University of the Pacific (CA) 2.7
57. Univ. of Wisconsin–Platteville * 2.7
65. California Maritime Academy * 2.6
65. California State U.–Fullerton * 2.6
65. College of New Jersey * 2.6
65. Colorado State University–Pueblo * 2.6
65. Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. (NJ) 2.6
65. Grove City College (PA) 2.6
65. Hampton University (VA) 2.6
65. LeTourneau University (TX) 2.6
65. Minnesota State University–Mankato * 2.6
65. New York Inst. of Technology 2.6
65. Northern Illinois University * 2.6
65. Norwich University (VT) 2.6
65. Pennsylvannia State U.–Harrisburg * 2.6
65. Roger Williams University (RI) 2.6
65. St. Cloud State University (MN)* 2.6
65. Tuskegee University (AL) 2.6
65. University of Alaska–Anchorage * 2.6
65. University of Hartford (CT) 2.6
65. Western New England College (MA) 2.6
65. West Virginia U. Inst. of Tech. * 2.6
65. Widener University (PA) 2.6
65. Youngstown State University (OH)* 2.6
87. California State Univ.–Chico * 2.5
87. Fairfield University (CT) 2.5
87. Grand Valley State University (MI)* 2.5
87. Humboldt State University (CA)* 2.5
87. Maine Maritime Academy * 2.5
87. Monmouth University (NJ) 2.5
87. North Carolina A&T State Univ. * 2.5
87. SUNY–Maritime College * 2.5
87. Tri-State University (IN) 2.5
87. Univ. of Missouri–St. Louis * 2.5
87. University of North Florida * 2.5
87. Univ. of Tennessee–Chattanooga * 2.5
87. University of Wisconsin–Stout * 2.5
87. Wentworth Inst. of Technology (MA) 2.5</p>
<p>Undergraduate engineering specialties:
Chemical
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Methodology
1 Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN)
2 Rowan University (NJ)*
3 Cooper Union (NY)
4 Bucknell University (PA)
5 University of Minnesota–Duluth *
6 Manhattan College (NY)</p>
<p>Undergraduate engineering specialties:
Civil
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Methodology
1 Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN)
2 United States Military Academy (NY)*
3 Bucknell University (PA)
4 Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo *
5 Cooper Union (NY)
5 Harvey Mudd College (CA)
7 Bradley University (IL)
7 Lafayette College (PA)
7 United States Air Force Acad. (CO)*
7 Virginia Military Institute *
11 Manhattan College (NY)
11 Rowan University (NJ)*
11 The Citadel (SC)*</p>
<p>Undergraduate engineering specialties:
Computer Engineering
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Methodology
1 Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN)
2 Harvey Mudd College (CA)
3 Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo *
4 Cooper Union (NY)
5 San Jose State University (CA)*
6 Bucknell University (PA)
6 Valparaiso University (IN)</p>
<p>Undergraduate engineering specialties:
Electrical / Electronic / Communications
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Methodology
1 Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN)
2 Cooper Union (NY)
3 Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo *
3 Harvey Mudd College (CA)
5 United States Naval Academy (MD)*
6 Bucknell University (PA)
7 United States Military Academy (NY)*
8 Rowan University (NJ)*
8 United States Air Force Acad. (CO)*
10 San Jose State University (CA)*
11 Bradley University (IL)
11 Union College (NY)
11 Valparaiso University (IN)
14 Gonzaga University (WA)
14 Lafayette College (PA)
14 Manhattan College (NY)</p>
<p>Undergraduate engineering specialties:
Mechanical
(At schools whose highest degree is a bachelor's or master's)
Methodology
1 Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. (IN)
2 Cooper Union (NY)
3 Cal Poly–San Luis Obispo *
3 Kettering University (MI)
5 Bucknell University (PA)
6 Harvey Mudd College (CA)
7 United States Military Academy (NY)*
8 United States Naval Academy (MD)*
9 Rowan University (NJ)*
10 Bradley University (IL)
11 Lafayette College (PA)
11 Manhattan College (NY)
13 Gonzaga University (WA)
13 Swarthmore College (PA)</p>
<p>I would recommend Kettering University because of the very unique co-op education. You get real world experience and practical education.</p>
<p>Co-ops aren't exactly unique, it's just that Kettering doesn't give you a choice about whether or not to do them. So you have to decide before you enter college that you absolutely want to do a co-op, as I understand it.</p>
<p>Honestly, I visited both Kettering and Rose, and I got the impression that Rose was much more high caliber, and more of a regular type college. I got kind of a trade school impression from Kettering. Plus, I don't really like the idea of such a weird schedule with the co-ops.</p>
<p>To each his own I always say. Choosing a college is all about fit and how you comfortable you would perceive yourself to be.</p>
<p>I agree with nic767. </p>
<p>Also, the “trade school” impression you got is probably because Kettering used to be the General Motors Institute, and before that the GM Technical Institute that they used to train future managers at the plant and so forth.</p>
<p>Although Kettering does have a unique schedule and the co-op is mandatory as hinted earlier, it provides a very hands on learning environment and experience both inside and outside the classroom. As already mentioned, it depends on what you wish to get out of your education and time in college. </p>
<p>I highly recommend personal visits to each campus to any student considering a college. That time really gives you a “feel” for the university and if you believe you would fit in well and thrive in that type of environment. </p>
<p>The Kettering students I know are successful at school and co-op for the exact reason that the schedule is perfect. The class times, sizes, and work experiences work well for them.</p>
<p>Well, I have to make a decision regarding my next college. Seriously, I am currently in NY and have been accepted to both NYU Poly and Rose-Hulman. I really want to make sure I made the right decision. Fit is on eof my first criteria because I am an international. However, unlike what seems to appear here, reputation is something not to neglect for me. Now I plan to attend Stanford, MIT or Cornell for a grad student, literally a top notch grad school and would like to know what are the reason I should choose Rose over NYU poly besides the parameters like rankings and so…I don`t plan to stay in the Midwest after grad. Thanks a lot…</p>