<p>OP,
You have the transcript to be in the game, but for anyone to give you reliable chances, they’re likely making assumptions that possibly you’re not making. My guess is that the non-statistical parts, including essays and recs, of your app will determine your fate, but that’s impossible for anyone here to quantify. </p>
<p>As was suggested upthread, an early application to U Michigan would likely produce an early positive answer and thus relieve a lot of the pressure and anxiety as you await U Virginia’s April 1 response (btw, the school is likely to re-adopt EA for admissions AFTER this year). </p>
<p>RML,
You don’t know what you’re talking about. </p>
<p>U Virginia and U North Carolina OOS are enormously tough OOS admits and the quality level of OOS applicant/acceptee is very high. We’ll never know, but outside of the Asian applicant pool, I’d guess that U Virginia and U North Carolina attract a stronger OOS applicant pool than does UC Berkeley. And fwiw, the U Virginia/U North Carolina admissions processes are very holistic. They have a lot of high stat applicants and definitely don’t go for the high SAT scorers.</p>
<p>re: Mich/BC. I know the published admissions stats well. But they tell only (as is usually the case) a part of the story. The student is OOS for Mich. The reality of admissions policies there since strict quotas were tossed by the Supreme Court has left a very fuzzy math in place deciding who’s in and who’s out. The application itself is not for the faint of heart with lots of essays parsing student background and “advantages” (or lack thereof). For most students OOS entry into Michigan will prove more difficult than BC.</p>
<p>OP,
If you like the schools, you should definitely be applying EA. Get it done and get some acceptances in the bank. </p>
<p>U Virginia made a poor choice a few years back in taking away their Early option (ED) not providing any alternative to Regular Decision. I think they expected many other colleges to follow their lead (with Harvard and Princeton), but obviously they didn’t. Now the school is at a competitive disadvantage with students like you who would dearly love to commit to the school via ED, but it’s not an option. As a result, you’re forced to go find some alternatives, any one of which could possibly win your heart and take UVA out of the equation. Thankfully it appears that the folks in Charlottesville have figured this out and some type of Early program will likely be reinstated. Fwiw, some years back, U North Carolina had a very similar sequence of events and now has something called Early Notification. </p>
<p>wbwa,
Before coming to CC, I didn’t know much about relative student body strengh at many colleges. I’ve learned a lot in the last few years and Boston College was one of the pleasant surprises. It’s hard to get in and probably more so than U Michigan. </p>
<p>Yes, size is a major factor (BC has less than 10k and U Michigan is now 26k and getting bigger). And yes, there probably are many OOS U Michigan students who could also get into BC, but I think you may underrate BC. As for those statistical comparisons, don’t forget that Boston College does not have an Engineering program which arguably attracts some of U Michigan’s top students.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response Hawk,
The reason that I asked was because I heard that the EA pool is filled with more competitive applicants. If thats the case I will just wait till regular decision.</p>
Of course I do know what I’m talking about. I applied to two of those schools and accepted at one. Have you applied to any of the schools the OP listed? </p>
<p>
Are you sure? Source please.</p>
<p>University of Virginia
Applied: 18,363
Accepted: 6,735 (36.7%)</p>
<p>Miami of Ohio seems to be extremely similar to UVa in atmosphere and appearance. It is probably considered slightly below UVa in academic quality, but is MUCH easier to get into.</p>
<p>Anyone else? I’m ultimately looking to go to UVA but if you guys can specifically give chances for UNC UVA and Umich those are the schools that I really would like to attend.</p>
<p>I believe hawkette is correct about Berkeley. I think you have a fine shot there. Rml’s admit rates are for instate. I believe it’s now easier to get in from oos. Last year Berkeley accepted 50% of international applicants. their yield is half for OOS what it is for instate, so they need to accept lots. They will significantly up the number from OOS again this year and unfortunately it’s just becoming harder for those in state as CA starts to do what other states have long done-use OOS students as cash cows.</p>
<p>The University of Virginia is a totally cool school. It is one of the very, very best schools in America. You should go for it if you love the school that much. Good luck!</p>