<p>Moving away from Ivies for just a moment--</p>
<p>The only public school system that I know that allows you to qualify based upon solely test scores is the University of California--and even there, you need at least a 425 (equivalent of a 2130 SAT) as an out-of-state student to qualify for the lowest UC campus. It is estimated that a 475 is necessary (the equivalent of a 2310 SAT) to have them even consider you for UC Berkeley, the top-ranked campus.</p>
<p>EVERY COLLEGE LOOKS AT THE STUDENT'S RESUME! Few IVIES will take a 2400/4.0 u.w. g.pa with no e.c.'s over a 2200/4.0 w. g.p.a with e.c.'s the 2200 has a lower score, but is showing that they are well rounded and can manage their load. Colleges are concerned that the student can adjust to life without "mom & dad"</p>
<p>Kowloon:
"I agree with you whiteboy, but what I wanted to imply was correlation (obviously) since only 26% of people getting 2300 + SAT got in (so its definitely correlational. Causation would be 2300 + SAT ---> admission)"</p>
<p>nope. sorry.</p>
<p>TourGuide446, also...nope. sorry. vanderbilt doesn't blindly accept perfect scores...here's a random fact for yah though bud...duke has never denied a perfect SAT.</p>
<p>A 2400 SAT with a 3.5 GPA and no EC's = almost guaranteed reject from most Ivies unless the essays, recs, etc are strong (or unless the applicant is hooked).</p>
<p>And Kowloon, we have NO way of knowing if 2400 dramatically increases chances.</p>
<p>Higher SAT scores are correlated to higher GPA, better EC's, better essays, better recs, better interviews.</p>
<p>It's like saying being Asian dramatically helps admissions at UCLA.</p>
<p>I know a kid who graduated my HS two years ago with a 2400. He applied early to Yale and got rejected; he goes to Harvard now. He was supposedly a very good clarinet player but quit the school band his senior year because he didn't want to have to attend the class.</p>
<p>When you say "no ECs," do you guys mean literally none, or do you mean that this person is involved in school clubs and such but with no exceptional leadership position or national title?</p>
<p>"Try Tufts, Washington U., and Vanderbilt."</p>
<p>i disagree with that.. those schools are all very much into finding students that are a great "fit". tufts definitely is big on fit, as essays and ecs are probably just as important as grades and scores there. at a meeting with an admissions officer from vanderbilt i was told the only real reason that sats have importance in admissions is because its the only way they can compare all the candidates nationwide.. but they are definitely not the number one factor</p>
<p>it does not necessarily mean you will get in.
My friend did get perfect on his SAT score, did have 4.0 GPA and was extrmely involved aswell as played his ethnicity.
He did get into Harvard, but not into his year. He would have to start the next year.... something to do with thme only wanting acertain amount of "intellectuals" etc etc.</p>
<p>I think the SAT measures more of test taking skills than intelligence. I'm not saying it doesnt measure intelligence, but it only does so if a person comes unprepared. I know a person who is not the brightest bulb on the block but happens to be a work horse and got a 2300.</p>
<p>people who even got perfect SAT scores have been REJECTED from UC MERCED!!! (sorry to anyone that goes there), but UC Merced has a 96% acceptance rate...ECs mean something</p>
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<p>What.. really?? What did that perfect SAT scorer do.. blow up a school? Most state schools are more score and stat centric because they cannot always afford to emphasize ECs in the admission process.</p>
<p>ROFL amb3r.</p>
<p>2400 and rejected from Merced just because Merced is obviously a safety... That should be against the law.</p>
<p>LMAO this thread is getting funnier by the minute. I find it hard to believe Duke has never denied a perfect scorer. I find it almost impossible to believe. Though I know they care about high test scores.</p>
<p>Ahahaha Merced. </p>
<p>Sighh</p>
<p>I think a 2400 with nothing to back it up actually turns colleges away from you. For one thing, the easier so called "safety" colleges will feel that they are only being used as a safety, while the competitive "reach" colleges may think that you are just a good/lucky test taker that has no life at all outside of academics. </p>
<p>The result: Going to a community college for a transfer.</p>
<p>if you go to an uber-competitive school, maybe</p>
<p>lol Dude....... You NEED EXTRACURRICULARS. in my opinion they are not EXTRAS. unless you have some crazy extracurriculars, especially sports in this case, the Ivys wont like it that much. The Ivys actually dont like applicants who only excel in studies but cant prove ***** through other means, theyll see you as that kid who ONLY FOCUSED on studies during ur high schools years and didnt get out of the house much. they wanted Well-Rounded students to be representing their schools..........</p>
<p>I agree with tetrisfan. Top schools, ivies especially, are emphasizing the 'holistic review process', so everything matters.</p>
<p>I don't have experience with ivies, per se, but it doesn't seem to be the case at all with Northwestern. I have a 2230, good EC's, essays, recs, but a non-stellar GPA, and lost out in early decision to a girl from my school with similar EC's, essays, and recs, but a <2000 SAT and a really good GPA. I'm not arguing against the idea of a holistic review process, but I certainly think the myth of a high SAT score canceling out other factors isn't true.</p>