<p>NRC is a freaking joke. An expensive one though.</p>
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<p>Log in Stanford ALumni online.(if you have a friend or know somebody from Stanford)
<a href=“Login”>Login;
<p>go to find a alum
Alumni Directory Search
put A and 500 comes out</p>
<p>This is an order I will omit last name for Privacy. </p>
<p>Mr. Alden 1907 History </p>
<p>Mr. Arthur AB Geology </p>
<p>Mr. Alfred </p>
<p>Miss Anne 1909 AB Latin </p>
<p>Mrs. Allan (formerly Ms. Patricia )1948 AB Psychology </p>
<p>Mr. Andrew 1896 Undergraduate Law </p>
<p>Mr. Arthur 1931 AB Economics </p>
<p>Major Arnold 1937 AB Pre-clin Medical Sci</p>
<p>NRC nothing perfect but everybody waited 15 years . and much better than USNEWS
at least.</p>
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<p>Columbia College “Core” classes, which preoccupy students in the first two years, are capped at 22 students. University Writing courses are capped at 14. For average undergraduate class size, Columbia is one of the best universities in the country.</p>
<p>Hawkette compiled a rather comprehensize comparison of class sizes at top schools. Berkeley has the lowest average undergraduate class sizes of any public university in the USA. Nevertheless, more than 20 private universities do better on this score. Not to mention LACs.
(<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/708190-avg-class-size-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/708190-avg-class-size-4.html</a>)</p>
<p>Alright keihana I will take your word for it that you’re a Stanford alumni. As for me being 18 years old, its actually a mistake. When I first made this account, I worked with a stupid keyboard that screwed up everything. My original user name should have been GoldAngel and somehow I ended up mixing bits of my password and misspelled my username. </p>
<p>RML, I’m still a little unconvinced with your argument…but nice try. I was very unimpressed with the student quality at Berkeley. I was a biotech major and I was very depressed with the classes and the computer course I had taken. I switched out to UPenn and felt much happier with my life and my peers around me.</p>
<p>As I’m still a little unconvinced with your username story…but nice try.</p>
<p>I will sum it up. I personally think HYP are great in terms of undergrad. Their graduate program except for Harvard isn’t so great. As for lower ivys, Berkeley should be in par with them. Most of the kids who got into Berkeley that applied to Ivys at least got into Cornell. Many just applies to Berkeley or Stanford considering about 80%+ are Californians. Avg gpa for undergrad is about 4.2, so it just shows you many if not all can at least get into at least Cornell. The fishy thing is the transfers, which bring the Berkeley reputation down. As far as freshman admits and Berkeley itself, they can definately compete with Brown, Cornell, Columbia, and some other unmentioned schools like Chicago and Duke. Berkeley should not be like rank 20…they are better than schools that are never mentioned as I listed above. Wait…there are schools like Dart(which are never mentioned anyway) and Northwestern, but who cares.</p>
<p>Goldangel, </p>
<p>Still hard to believe that you studied at Cal.
I think you are 18 years old. </p>
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<p>“^Is Berkeley really underrated? My counselors say…its pretty much where it’s supposed to be…”</p>
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GoldAngealArea
Why is there the need to be so obsessive with Berkeley’s rank? I don’t get it…if it really is a top university then why the need to compare it with other universities? </p>
<p>GoldAngealArea </p>
<p>I mean I don’t know what you guys think, but Berkeley doesn’t exactly have such a great rep in California…Not nearly as great as Stanford. Berkeley is just a “hippy” school. All you need is good grades and an SAT score above a 2000. People think of drugs and protest when you mention UC Berkeley.
In fact UCLA is equally if not more desirable. I’m not sure how Berkeley can even come close to the Ivy League in undergrad quality.
Sorry, but I hear their graduate schools are very top notch! So I do believe Berkeley is probably top 5 in Graduate/PhD programs. Good for Cal.</p>
<p>“As for me being 18 years old, its actually a mistake. When I first made this account, I worked with a stupid keyboard that screwed up everything. My original user name should have been GoldAngel and somehow I ended up mixing bits of my password and misspelled my username.
RML, I’m still a little unconvinced with your argument…but nice try. I was very unimpressed with the student quality at Berkeley. I was a biotech major and I was very depressed with the classes and the computer course I had taken.”</p>
<p>-If your password/username got screwed up it wouldn’t actually let you create an account since you have to enter your password twice.
-It seems unlikely you wouldn’t notice the spelling getting messed up
-There’s no biotech major at Berkeley. Also why “the computer course”? Wouldn’t stating the course number lend legitimacy to your claims?</p>
<p>err, scratch what keihanna and I just said, this tops it.</p>
<p>"I keep hearing HYPSM are the best universities in America on these boards. But I’m sure there are universities a “step” right under them. Is there an acronym for them? I’m new to this so…and I don’t think I’m competitive enough for HYPSM admission. "
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<p>Looks like you’d better make a new account to ■■■■■ us.</p>
<p>I still love Cal, despite what anyone or rankings say. I admit, us Bears are prestige whores, but we need to have more faith in our university. You dont see the ivies bickering about ranks.</p>
<p>^^one could argue that it’s because they’re less insecure with their ranking</p>
<p>“You dont see the ivies bickering about ranks.”</p>
<p>6 of the 8 Ivies have no reason to bicker. HYP don’t complain because they are ranked 1-3. Penn doesn’t bicker because they are ranked between #3 and #6. Columbia and Dartmouth do not complain because they are ranked between #4 and #9. But Brown and Cornell, which are seldom ranked among the top 10, definitely bicker. And that’s just the USWNR. As a rule, students and alums of private elites will complain whenever their universities is not ranked among the top 10.</p>
<p>USNEWS made a mess.</p>
<p>This is Federal R&D expendires Rankings where Harvard is ranked 33rd.
&D expenditures at universities and colleges, ranked by FY 2009 R&D expenditures: FY 09<br>
(Dollars in thousands)<br>
Rank Institution 2009 </p>
<pre><code>1 Johns Hopkins U., Thea 1,856,270
2 Berkeley + UCSF 1,600,171
2 U. MI all campuses 1,007,198
3 U. WI Madison 952,119
4 U. CA, San Francisco 947,697
5 U. CA, Los Angelesb 889,995
6 U. CA, San Diego 879,357
7 Duke U. 805,021
8 U. WA 778,046
9 PA State U. all campuses 753,358
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<p>10 U. MN all campuses 740,980 </p>
<p>11 MA Institute of Technology 736,102<br>
12 U. PA 726,768<br>
13 OH State U. all campuses 716,461<br>
14 Stanford U. 704,183<br>
15 U. CA, Davis 681,618 </p>
<p>16 Cornell U. all campuses 671,406<br>
17 U. CA, Berkeley (without Medical Exp) 652,474<br>
18 U. CO all campuses 648,417<br>
19 U. NC Chapel Hill 646,011<br>
20 TX A&M U. 630,655 </p>
<p>21 Washington U. St. Louis 628,328<br>
22 U. Pittsburgh all campuses 623,347<br>
23 U. FL 592,082<br>
24 Columbia U. in the City of New York 589,575<br>
25 U. TX M. D. Anderson Cancer Ctr. 578,788 </p>
<p>26 U. AZ 565,292<br>
27 U. IL Urbana-Champaign 563,710<br>
28 GA Institute of Technology all campuses 561,631<br>
29 U. Southern CA 533,041<br>
30 Northwestern U. 515,229 </p>
<p>31 Yale U. 509,452<br>
32 U. TX Austin 506,369<br>
33 Harvard U. 462,193</p>
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Well, that is your personal opinion now and there’s nothing i can do about that. No one has said Berkeley is for everyone. It’s the same way why some people aren’t attracted to small schools.</p>
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I switched out to UPenn and felt much happier with my life…/quote]</p>
<p>And you also paid twice as much. :)</p>
<p>Goldangel is a 18 years old kid. Ignore him.</p>
<p>There’s nothing like UC Berkeley in the world</p>
<p>You can literally major in anything there, and it has so many notable alumnis, nobel prize winners, etc. </p>
<p>It is way underrated because of the term “public university,” even though it is the best public university in the nation.</p>
<p>People who say it’s overrated or that it is not a high caliber institution are ignorant. In many ways, it can be considered on par with Ivies. Unfortunately for Cal, it does not have a huge endowment.</p>
<p>I am sick of people thinking of Berkeley as a fallback. UC Berkeley deserves the utmost attention and can definitely be compared with the higher ranking schools.</p>
<p>FYI there are people that earn as much by attending UCB as Stanford or other higher institutions…don’t think you won’t get a great job after attending UCB.</p>
<p>Top university patent producers-UC,MIT,UW </p>
<p>Seven universities, led by the University of California system, were among the 300 organizations awarded the most United States patents in 2009, according to a compilation by the Intellectual Property Owners Association. The 10-campus UC system ranked 83rd on the list, with 251 patents. It was followed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (ranked 153rd, with 134 patents), the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation, which manages patents for the University of Wisconsin at Madison (173rd, with 115 patents), Stanford University (178th, with 110 patents), the University of Texas (191st, with 98 patents), the California Institute of Technology (198th, with 93 patents), and the University of Illinois (266th, with 65 patents). The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office ceased compiling rankings three years ago to avoid the perception that it was endorsing the theory that more patents were better, but the association said such a list is at least one objective measure of the patent system.</p>
<p>“FYI there are people that earn as much by attending UCB as Stanford or other higher institutions…don’t think you won’t get a great job after attending UCB.” </p>
<p>Uhm there are people who don’t attend college and earn much more than a UCB grad ever will. And on the other hand, there are UCB grads that end up being baristas at Starbucks. </p>
<p>You should totally be a spokesperson for UCB though. You sound like a tour guide. haha</p>