<p>I keep seeing SEAS as being criticized for being the easiest to get into, or the lowest rank school in the university... is this true? It's BME program is like 6th in the country?</p>
<p>BME is top-5. Overall, however, SEAS is not MIT/Caltech. That’s all. In terms of undergrad selectivity, it’s still great - similar to Columbia Fu, slightly worse than Cornell engineering.</p>
<p>iono, i dont think that undergrad engineering rankings really count for much. you can learn plenty anywhere, but penns resources make going there, regardless of the school, full of opportunities.</p>
<p>its interesting though if youre talking about selectivity. penns my top choice right now (im applying seas rd) and i can hardly find anyone on the decisions thread who doesnt get in. but im assuming while it might not be too hard to get in, the hard part is doing good (high dropout rate i hear?)</p>
<p>There is definitely not a high dropout rate. Just look at Penn’s 4 year graduation rate (it’s one of the highest in the country).</p>
<p>I think that SEAS typically fills a lot of its class during ED, because it has a much lower yield RD compared to the College and Wharton. You may also be seeing candidates who were URMs or had some other hook. I don’t know. It is very selective - at least its SAT average is pretty high.</p>
<p>yeah, well doesnt every school at penn fill roughly half of its class ED? so thats like 200 spots already.</p>
<p>hmm, and i dont think sat scores are a very tale-telling indication of anything really. in any case, a 760 average on SAT math doesnt feel extraordinarily high, though my perception might be skewed. </p>
<p>whatever. i just want to get in. its nervewracking knowing im on the edge, but 4 months from now shall tell all.</p>
<p>I actually think most of my SEAS friends are smarter than Wharton ones</p>
<p>SEAS is a terrific school, but the thing is that undergraduate engineering programs are plentiful in Pennsylvania. I would argue that Penn provides better chances for research and on campus applications of the engineering sciences than its peers, but Penn State and Drexel have better job opportunities upon graduation (Penn State offers GREAT programs in fields that are highly paid, highly desired and hardly studied in the United States, and Drexel places students in cooperative learning programs… the Drexel co-op is famous in Philly and is well known for getting graduates terrific jobs). </p>
<p>When it comes to other aspects, though, Penn has significant advantages – Engineering students often take random classes in the CAS, an opportunity that most students at other schools simply do not have. Plus the research facilities on campus are tremendous, which helps to make BE and CBE fantastic programs. </p>
<p>To call SEAS bad is to say that the 2009-2010 New Orleans Saints are bad.</p>
<p>Would I get a decent job by graduating from it, doing chemical engineering?</p>
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<p>Well, then who are the Cowboys in this analogy?</p>
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<p>THE COLLEGE OF ARTS AND SCIENCES!</p>
<p>Engineering students go to class more, have the most work to do, have the toughest curves, yet which is the school whose legitimacy is in doubt? (Not the College, except when they hit their December slump of legitimacy when they face the Wharton football teams)</p>
<p>PS: Go Broncos.</p>
<p>i think the thread question is still relatively irrelevant, since i dont know what makes an undergrad engineering program bad. like i said, im totally bought on penn seas, and like mentioned above the opportunities you can also pursue in the other colleges are definitely a plus.</p>
<p>SEAS students are vapid. They have no mathematical or problem-solving ability, but they are very popular and well connected. They tend to be the life of the party, sign up for all easy classes, and have unrestrained drunken promiscuous sex. Worst students ever. Very much contrasted to the CAS and Wharton students, who spend all of their time in their rooms studying, finishing problem sets, and talking about esoteric internet memes. They tend to be pretty intelligent, but have no social lives whatsoever, as they are required to take heavy and inflexible course loads.</p>
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<p>do not want</p>
<p>And the Nursing student appears… :-P</p>
<p>can’t believe this is a serious thread. and what is it with neviar???</p>
<p>Go 49ers! </p>
<p>I’ve been rooting for them for the past 6 years…
Why do I always have a propensity to like the underdogs? WHY</p>