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<p>+1, I’d be pretty ****ed at the guy who snitched</p>
<p>“So would you agree that the professor should also be in trouble for “academic dishonesty” since they copied the questions?”</p>
<p>No, because I’ve never encountered the expectation that professors will author exams they administer. I’m surprised to learn that there is such a rule at Southeast Missouri State, but now that I have I’m looking forward to learning more about why they have such a rule and how it works. If the OP were to show me that his school does have a rule requiring professors to be the sole authors of exams they administer, I would change my mind about his professor, too – and it would be good luck for him, because I can’t imagine the professor making a formal complaint that students cheated in a way that was only possible because he was also in violation of the academic integrity policy.</p>
<p>I assume there is such a policy at your school? Would you mind telling me which school that is, because I’d love to learn more about how it works there.</p>
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<p>I don’t know of any rule, but who knows. The thing is… the comment was made that by using the test bank the OP did provide “his own answers” on the test which is therefore wrong. But at the same time, the professor did not provide “his own questions” and I’m sure he didn’t cite his sources either. Therefore would he not be taking those questions and using them as if they were his own?</p>
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<p>Sure is interesting you ask this question after having already known the school I go to apparently…</p>
<p>reminds me of the time when I figured out that our homework online was from a test bank. I bought the book, and I got 100% in every homework until my professor got suspicious and created his own questions. It is probably not as SERIOUS as yours since it is an online homework, it is not suprising for students to CHEAT.</p>
<p>You didn’t do anything wrong. Why would he question you anyways? In most classes, you just just learn the answers to the questions the professor wants answered anyways, you don’t necessarily learn the material in its own field. For example, you study general chemistry so that you can ace the test, a written test (in most cases), not a test where you recreate your lab experiment. It would be different if you stole an old professor’s test, but you didn’t. You shouldn’t have lied though, unless you thought you did something wrong, which by admitting, you are doing yourself a disfavor, because you didn’t do anything wrong at all.</p>
<p>If it was just a study tool offered by the the publisher and he happened to use some of the questions, you did nothing wrong. If it is a test bank where students have posted past tests, then that is cheating.</p>
<p>Unless it’s explicitly prohibited, it’s allowed.</p>
<p>Restricted test banks from publishers are allowed, use of past test material is allowed.</p>
<p>Professors are responsible for making up new exam questions each year to ensure fairness, and I think your’e in the clear. In fact, if I were you, I’d be going to the dean and trying to get the professor reprimanded for not doing his job of ensuring fairness by creating a new test each year.</p>
<p>At my university, past exams are easily available for courses in my major’s department because they decided to even the playing field. However, even for other majors, it’s no secret that various fraternities/sororities have test banks and that people will take advantage of such resources without shame nor restraint. Professors know this is the case and make completely new exams each year.</p>
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<p>This happened to somebody last semester. They were suspended from school because to buy the test bank in the first place, you have to be a professor. You cheated and lied. Suck it up and deal with the consequences.</p>
<p>First of all RED963, try googling test bank for a common text book. There are a hundred links out there where you can buy the test bank and not say you are a professor. </p>
<p>As a clarification to this test bank, it’s a document of questions, multiple choice and long answer, usually over 100 questions per chapter. This document is given to professors by publishers as more incentive to use their book. not extra questions from the back of the textbook or an online student study material. </p>
<p>And i didn’t exactly lie, he asked me if I saw anyone in my group using a suspicious document that we weren’t supposed to be using. I said that there were a lot of papers because it was a big group and didn’t get to see all of it. He never straight up asked me whether or not I used the test bank questions. </p>
<p>And my school does not have a policy where professors have to make up their own exams. I’ve heard of other professors who take questions straight from the same test bank that people had two years ago, and it has floated throughout the 300+ student class.</p>
<p>You’re really asking two questions here.</p>
<p>Will you face consequences from the school or professor for using a test bank to study? Probably not.</p>
<p>Was it unethical to use a test bank, knowing that your professor might well be pulling questions from it? Absolutely.</p>
<p>I don’t see anything wrong with using the test bank, but you should not have tried to weasel out of it.</p>
<p>NOO! there’s nothing wrong with what you did except LIE
YOURE ****ED</p>
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<p>It’s up to the school/teacher to determine if using the test bank is technically cheating. However, from an ethical standpoint, you have to ask yourself if it’s cheating.</p>
<p>If you memorized answers and didn’t understand how to solve the problem(s), you’re only cheating yourself out of an education.</p>
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<p>I think your problem is that you lied. Had you admitted to it in the first place, I doubt you would have been severely punished, because it is your right to find any study aid you can, and you did not obtain it illegally. However, I do agree with the moral (not so much rules from the school but morals for yourself) that if you knew the questions might be on the test, and you looked at it anyway, you’re cheating yourself.</p>
<p>So what you should do now is admit it before the lie gets bigger…and explain that you only intended to use it as a study guide, not as a way to preview questions/answers.</p>
<p>Well, ethics aside; who wants to go to a doctor, nurse, psychologist, etc. who had to use “crib notes” to get by the courses that teach them how to take care of someone, do their job, etc.? </p>
<p>Kind of a scary thought and maybe something that should be asked when picking your health care provider, accountant, etc. :</p>
<p>Its dishonest…just because you can do something does not mean you should do something.</p>
<p>Well if your teacher is using just standard questions they found somewhere and you found the same ones somewhere else i think that is being smart and you guys are smart for finding them. im gunna go see if i can find some for my text books too now. The teachers are going to try to get you in trouble cause thats what they do, but i dont think you did anything wrong. besides you paid for it and didnt steal anything from anyone.</p>