<p>Does the University of Texas come to mind when you think of public ivy?</p>
<p>No way -----</p>
<p>Not really. It has good programs but it’s too big, not selective enough, and has a notorious reputation of being a huge party school.</p>
<p>For public Ivies I think of UC Berkeley, UCLA, U of Virginia, UNC, Michigan, Illinois. Living in NY Binghamton University is also considered a public Ivy.</p>
<p>I would limit them to UVA, Michigan, Berkeley, and UCLA.</p>
<p>University of Wisconsin-Madison?</p>
<p>I would limit them to UVA, Michigan, Berkeley, and UCLA.
THATS IT</p>
<p>According to Richard Moll’s book “Public Ivies: A Guide to America’s best public undergraduate colleges and universities” (Moll is actually the one who coined the term Public Ivy), UT Austin is part of the original 8 Public Ivies.</p>
<p>There may be people in Texas who consider it as a Public Ivy, but outside it may not be known as such, in comparison to UC Berkeley, Michigan, U. of Virginia, etc.</p>
<p>UT is not quite selective enough to be considered a public Ivy. Even UCLA, a very selective institution, accepts more applications that Cornell, which earns innumerable newbie threads on CC for being an “easy” Ivy (incorrect IMO).
Public universities have a different admissions dynamic, so a “public Ivy” is really a focus on academics. However, lack of funding happens often and fluctuates more easily as public schools are government-funded, unlike the Ivy Leagues.</p>
<p>Start with William & Mary, then the schools of Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, California (B & LA). Honorable Mention to Ga Tech, Washington, Wisconsin and Texas. That is the pecking order.</p>
<p>swish14. Start with Berkeley, then Michigan, and go from there. THAT is the pecking order. So many on CC seem to forget that a world class university inlcudes graduate schools as well.</p>
<p>But the term is meant to be applied to the best public schools to get an undergraduate education.
And according to Wikipedia [take it for what it is]:
</p>
<p>^^^Well in this case, I stand corrected.</p>
<p>i would throw unc in there</p>
<p>Yeah, this basically becomes a list of the top public universities.
That is pretty much the original list as well.</p>
<p>What has happened to Miami of Ohio in the past 2 decades?</p>
<p>Yeah, I would think Chapel Hill is up there…</p>
<p>I don’t think Miami was ever (<em>that</em>) good. Not enough to be on the list.</p>
<p>What is the obsession with assigning the title ‘public ivy’ or ‘new ivy’ to every half decent school out there? Is asking if a school is a ‘public ivy’ just code for asking ‘is this school pretty good?’ </p>
<p>Being part of the ivy league means nothing. Its just a sports league in which the schools happen to all be very good. There are plenty of other schools, some new, some old, some public, some private that are easily in the same league. Assigning all these schools the title of ‘something-ivy’ is just pointless.</p>
<p>There are <em>some</em> schools that are Ivy League level, so it’s a pretty good measure of academic prowess. Yes, the Ivies were started as a sports league, but notice that they are also a group of the oldest, most prestigious universities, most of which were around 2-300 years before they grouped together.</p>
<p>I think the “new Ivy” term is a little ridiculous myself, as I wouldn’t ever call Bowdoin or Amherst “Ivies”- they are so much more than a brand name. But for some people, grouping these schools together is helpful in the college search. It was a term coined by an author for the purposes of pulling kids away from the Ivy League. Nothing more.</p>
<p>Tzar09, That’s not the way most people see it. A neighbor once asked where I was applying to college. After I told him the list, he was like “ooh, an Ivy!” but I told him I probably wouldn’t get in, and even if I did I probably wouldn’t go there as it would cost too much. He responded by saying “Well, you can’t pass up the opportunity to go to an Ivy!” Most people do not see it as simply a sports league, but a measure of academic success. It has become embedded into the public imagination the same way that “Disney” is now associated with “good childhood memories.” As long as you understand this, please keep railing against it as a term of prestige. It may eventually help our society in its own small way.</p>
<p>
It’s certainly a top 10 public, for what that’s worth (along with Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UCSD, UIUC, UNC, UVA, UW, and Wisconsin).</p>
<p>Madison and Ann Arbor are nice towns, but I’d take Austin’s weather. ;)</p>