<p>^^^Not this summer I wouldn’t! But If you like milder winter weather, there’s no question that Austin beats the other towns you mentioned.</p>
<p>Considering there are 8 Ivy schools, I would say that the “Public Ivies” are:</p>
<p>Berkeley
Virginia
UCLA
Michigan
North Carolina
William & Marry
Georgia Tech
Wisconsin</p>
<p>However, because most of those are large public universities, and therefore very comparable in some areas to other quality public universities, Illinois, Washington, Texas, Florida, Maryland, Minnesota, etc., are all close behind. IMO.</p>
<p>You can’t lump all state schools together and then say a school like Maryland is close behind a school like Berkeley. It just aint’ so.</p>
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Yeah, 46 days (I think) above 100 degrees and counting…too bad…
Hopefully they get cooler weather and rain soon.
Probably need a small hurricane to come through and kick out that perpetual high pressure.</p>
<p>I like UT…its undergrad engineering and business programs are among the best…</p>
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<p>My list of 8:
Berkeley
Michigan
Virginia
UCLA
North Carolina
Wisconsin
Illinois
Texas</p>
<p>Georgia Tech and William & Mary are associate members due to size and specialty. I believe my list of 8 are universities that offer more breadth and depth.
Washington, Florida, Minnesota, Purdue, Penn State, and Maryland are honorable mentions.</p>
<p>If anything, W&M’s size is closer to that of a real Ivy…
and Ga. Tech can be the MIT of the Public Ivy League…lol</p>
<p>^ Hmmm…good arguments, but MIT isn’t in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>^ I think what he’s saying is that MIT is basically an Ivy and often mistaken for one, yet it is not. And Gerogia Tech could be the MIT of the Public Ivies in the sense that it’s up there with the rest of them, but it isn’t as broad as the others (as you mentioned). But I would agree with the list of 8 that you gave. </p>
<p>William & Mary is to the public ivies as Williams or Amherst is to the real Ivies haha.</p>
<p>AT9 hit it on the head with what I was referring to.
And I do see the scaled down (up?) analogy, I kinda like it.</p>
<p>^ OK, so Georgia Tech is a defacto member of the “public Ivies” just like MIT is associated as a defacto member of the real Ivy League. That’s what I said.</p>
<p>BTW, most of the Ivy League schools are comparatively weak in engineering so it needs an MIT-type to tag along…that’s not the case with most of the top publics.</p>
<p>Virginia is weak in engineering and UNC doesn’t offer it at all. I agree with your order of the top 8 UCB, of course.</p>
<p>^ That’s why I said “most”. :)</p>
<p>I would also edit to add UCSD to the honorable mentions.</p>
<p>While Ivy may be a state of mind on cc, it is but an athletic conference. There is only one, as there is only one Big 10, or one SEC.</p>
<p>^ Big Te(leve)n is the closest thing to being a “public Ivy” athletic conference - they just have Northwestern… ;)</p>
<p>^^^The Big Ten is not as good as the ACC or Pac 10 academically^^^</p>
<p>Wrong! The bottom schools in the ACC and Pac 10 are weaker than the weakest school in the Big Ten.</p>
<p>My list of 8:
Berkeley
Michigan
Virginia
UCLA
North Carolina
Wisconsin
Illinois
Texas</p>
<p>Agreed with that list.</p>
<p>^^ Haha…well, Pac-10 has great top universities, but they include two privates, and the “State” universities in the Pac-10 aren’t as strong as the Big Ten members…</p>
<p>Top to bottom, I say Big Ten has the strongest collection of public universities.</p>
<p>I’d have to disagree, but I don’t have stats to prove it. Someone should get all the schools in each conferences usnews rank (public and private) and give an average rank per conference. I think it would be very close between ACC, Pac 10, and Big Ten.</p>
<p>^ <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/4592791-post8.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/4592791-post8.html</a></p>
<p>Once again UCB comes through. :-)</p>