Is UVa #2 Public school or #3?

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<li>University of California–Berkeley</li>
<li>University of Michigan–Ann Arbor
University of Virginia</li>
<li>Univ. of California–Los Angeles</li>
<li>U. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill</li>
<li>College of William and Mary (VA)</li>
<li>Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison</li>
<li>Univ. of California–San Diego</li>
<li>U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign</li>
<li>Georgia Institute of Technology</li>
<li>University of California–Davis</li>
<li>University of California–Irvine</li>
<li>Univ. of California–Santa Barbara</li>
<li>University of Texas–Austin
University of Washington</li>
<li>Pennsylvania State U.–University Park
University of Florida</li>
<li>Univ. of Maryland–College Park</li>
<li>Rutgers–New Brunswick (NJ)
University of Georgia
University of Iowa</li>
</ol>

<p>Ok…i try to explain to this moron that UVa is tied with Ann Arbor for 2nd place…and that the only reason it’s listed after Ann Arbor is because Virginia comes after Michigan alphabeticlaly and he calls me an “idiot that can’t read rankings”</p>

<p>Now will someone else PLEASE explain to him that USNews does not designate a 3rd place spot if two schools are tied for second.</p>

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<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/natudoc_pub_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/natudoc_pub_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>yes of course they are tied. if virginia came before michigan alphabetically they would be switched</p>

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<p>If it was tired then they would both be number 2.</p>

<p>I dint knwo you could be tied and have be different. usullay tied means equal.</p>

<p>So woudlent Michigan and Virgia both be #2 and then Los Angeles as #3/</p>

<p>But no, Los Angeles is #4 which means Virginia is #3</p>

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<p>haha no vinny that's not what it means</p>

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<p>Yeah it is.</p>

<p>why woudlent they use 3 then, It doesnt make sense. if it is a ranking and #1 being the best. if It was a List i could understand. But not a ranking</p>

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<p>Vinny, according to your logic, there would be 4 schools in the top 3 spots if michigan and UVA were tied. That can't happen so when there is a tie they skip the next number. Thats what happened here. Thats the way rankings work</p>

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<p>No</p>

<p>All I am saying is</p>

<ol>
<li>University of California–Berkeley</li>
<li>University of Michigan–Ann Arbor
University of Virginia-----------------------------Is the #3</li>
<li>Univ. of California–Los Angeles</li>
</ol>

<p>and if it were a Tie then los angeles would be #3 because the two school tied for #2 would only take up one number. Thus the Tie.</p>

<p>If there is a tie in a race.</p>

<p>We dont go</p>

<p>2 gold then bronze.</p>

<p>we go 2 gold 1 silver and the bronze.</p>

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<p>Hm... I think some people need to go back to kindergarten and learn how to count :D There's no rhyme or reason to why UMich is above UVa, but they both occupy the number two spot so they are equal. And UCLA is #4 because it is the fourth school listed! Imagine that.</p>

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<p>I am not think of the Numbers and what line they are on,</p>

<p>It is a Ranking so the best would be #1. 2nd best would be #2 and so on.</p>

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<p>vinny, just a simple question. Why is there no 3 beside UVA? Is USNews stupid enough to leave out 3? I think not. haha</p>

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<p>Id think so then.</p>

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<p>vinny, did you notice that the ranks are based on the "Overall Score" given to the particular school? For example: Wake Forest University is #27 with an score of 73, Tufts University follows at #28 with a score of 72 and then comes UNC-Chapel Hill at #29 with a score of 71.</p>

<p>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor and University of Virginia are both assessed an "Overall Score" of 76, and are therefore equal in the eyes of the US News and World Report College Rankings. It's really that easy.</p>

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<p>hahaha...this is a retarded conversation. They are both tied for #2, and then comes UCLA at #4. Since they are both #2, there is NO #3. Period.</p>

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<p>why not, It doesent make sense</p>

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<p>it doesn't matter whether it is a ranking or a list, if there is a tie for one postion they leave out the next position(s) so you couldn't have like 10+ schools, in this case, all in the top 5 if there are a bunch of ties. That is the way it works, look at any ranks or lists. That's what they do!</p>

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<p>Its not done</p>

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<p>why don't you understand yet? what are you still questioning?</p>

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<p>Vinny does your high school have rankings? haha because you must not be very highly ranked if you don't think that ties cause a complete downshift in the list. If there are 10 people in your class and 2 tie for second and you just started with number 3 there would only be 9 spots. That isn't logical. No tenth spot for 10 people. That is the way it works with everything. Check out the Top Ten Book of Everything. You'll see that it also works in this way.</p>

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<p>Vinny...man...maybe you have a funny race where ties go 1,1,2,3 but in the kinds of things I race, ties work the same as the usnews rankings (which is convieniently the way the rest of the world ranks things).</p>

<p>If UCLA has 3 schools ranked above it, it has to be #4. It cant be the third best because it has a total of three above it. It would also be valid to rank them 1,3,3,4 but its nice to give them the benefit of the doubt and make both schools. </p>

<p>If it was University of All Virginiam then it would be above Mich because A comes before M...learn the alphabet.</p>

<p>On a second note...the rankings dont matter...especially when they are that close.</p>