Is WASH U overrated?

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<p>The rest of the story on fundraising.</p>

<p>Where's Wash U</p>

<p>TOP FUND-RAISING INSTITUTIONS, 2006-7</p>

<ol>
<li>Stanford U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$832,344,826</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$613,985,000</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Southern California</li>
</ol>

<p>$469,646,622</p>

<ol>
<li>Johns Hopkins U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$430,455,336</p>

<ol>
<li>Columbia U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$423,849,107</p>

<ol>
<li>Cornell U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$406,925,075</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Pennsylvania</li>
</ol>

<p>$392,420,770</p>

<ol>
<li>Yale U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$391,315,420</p>

<ol>
<li>Duke U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$372,328,154</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of California at Los Angeles</li>
</ol>

<p>$364,779,738</p>

<ol>
<li>Massachusetts Institute of Technology</li>
</ol>

<p>$329,158,304</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Chicago</li>
</ol>

<p>$328,328,020</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Wisconsin at Madison</li>
</ol>

<p>$325,336,779</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Washington</li>
</ol>

<p>$300,199,601</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Michigan</li>
</ol>

<p>$293,403,123</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Minnesota</li>
</ol>

<p>$288,750,059</p>

<ol>
<li>New York U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$287,587,458</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of Virginia</li>
</ol>

<p>$282,610,619</p>

<ol>
<li>Indiana U.</li>
</ol>

<p>$278,553,274</p>

<ol>
<li>U. of California at San Francisco</li>
</ol>

<p>$251,945,342</p>

<p>Wash U--Around $140,000,000</p>

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<p>barrons, can I see the link to this information. its a great bit though,thanks.</p>

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<p>It is often said, "It is not about what you know, it is about who you know." </p>

<p>And, personally, I feel there are more opportunities in terms of research and internships in bigger cities, namely on the West and East coast, which may help an individual in the long run. I know WashU's education is just as great, if not possibly better then some Ivy's out there. I am not doubting that, I am just saying that I feel one may have better long term opportunities elsewhere. Then again, I am not from the midwest so I may be biased. I'm sure there are people who would disagree with me on that.</p>

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<p>It's not like one school will give you a better future than another school. It's what you make of it. Play beer pong every night anywhere, there will not be many job offers. Work really hard at any school and the opportunities will appear.</p>

<p>Go to the school where you think you will be the most comfortable and where you will be the most successful.</p>

<p>Go to the school where you fit. That is different for each person.</p>

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<p>Berkeley should be #20. It raised $267 million last fiscal year. So, we just edged out our medical school...;)</p>

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<p>@beefs</p>

<p>(Voluntary Support of Education Survey)
<a href="http://www.cae.org/content/pro_data_trends.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cae.org/content/pro_data_trends.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i25/1000colleges.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i25/1000colleges.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Thanks noobs. That's correct.</p>

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<p>Slipper1234, I said: "Like I said before, there is no place anywhere in the midwest that a Cornell diploma could get you that a WUSTL, NU or U of Chicago diploma couldn't get you just as easily."</p>

<p>And you said: "Pizzagirl that just isn't true. Cornell will work everywhere, WashU is more regional. There is no place a WashU degree will get you that a Cornell degree won't, but a Cornell degree has more leverage in the more influential parts of the country (business/ finance/ politics/ entertainment)- namely the east and west coast."</p>

<p>Did you not read what I said? I said IN THE MIDWEST. And I stand by that. And there are plenty of business / finance opportunities in Chicago as well as other areas of the midwest. Look, I'm originally from the East; I know what it's like to think that the Midwest is all flyover land because I used to think that myself. Then I grew up and got some sophistication.</p>

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<p>It is often said, "It is not about what you know, it is about who you know." </p>

<p>And, personally, I feel there are more opportunities in terms of research and internships in bigger cities, namely on the West and East coast, which may help an individual in the long run."</p>

<p>The person who goes to a non-Ivy or non-top school and networks is far advantaged over the person who goes to an Ivy or top school and doesn't network. If I have one regret over my own experience (at a USNWR Top 15), it's that I didn't take more advantage of meeting and networking with people.</p>

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<p>hmmm. a few comments:</p>

<p>1) I was talking to an architect about where i should go to school. Evidently, in the real world, beyond college, almost everything is regional. Including Ivies.</p>

<p>2) Y'all make me feel sad, because i got accepted into WashU with early notif, does that mean I won't get into the Ivies. This is what you are suggesting - if WashU was willing to take me, they must be doing it because they think I don't have a chance to go to the Ivies. After being accepted to Duke, Rice, UC Berkeley (to name a few) I really hope that I have to the chance to get into at least one!!!</p>

<p>3) I didn't know Columbia existed until Senior year, much less that it was an Ivy. Same for UPenn, knew of it, didn't know it was an Ivy. I'm pretty sure recognition has a lot to do with where you perceive the institution should be ranked. In truth, anywhere within the top 20, the schools are basically equal (though many will disagree,) it all depends on what characteristics are important to you. Who cares about HYP's recognition and rank if you are looking for somewhere warm? Who cares about the Wharton school if you want a conservatory-level music program?</p>

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<p>Where's Washu? </p>

<p>First, why not where's Northwestern? Brown? Dartmouth? </p>

<p>If you read the report cited (the second link, which goes beyond the top 10 fundraisers), you would see where Washu is. It's ahead of Dartmouth, for one thing and shares its (implied) lowly under-$200-million fund-raising status with Brown, Northwestern, afore-mentioned Dartmouth, and Georgetown among others. Why single out Washu? </p>

<p>And for pete's sake, barrons, at least quote accurately from the source material you yourself cite. (Thanks to noob.) The CHE source has Washu's fund-raising total at** $158,212,549,** not "around $140,000,000." </p>

<p>By similar logic, can we argue that Dartmouth ($156,603,891) is overrated compared to its peers ---- Princeton at $230.5 million or Brown at $181,622,477? Does the fact that Notre Dame ($207,641,205) raised significantly more than Northwestern ($187,925,976) mean that Northwestern should be considered overrated by comparison according to this evidence, presented here as though it were some kind of smoking gun? </p>

<p>Hmmm, let me try to guess the answer. </p>

<p>No. </p>

<p>Same answer for Washu, imo.</p>

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<p>wash u is definitely overrated and overpriced (at least undergrad school)...i think the medical school is top though...but i'm really bitter because i got waitlisted from them but got accepted into princeton, yale, caltech, duke, cornell, uc berkeley, usc, and northwestern...</p>

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<p>^ Haha...with those options why be bitter about WUSTL?</p>

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<p>haha, its just kind of annoying...</p>

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<p>Total fundraising isn't a solid measure of alumni support. 1) Schools have fund raising campaigns for a period of years and the raise declines and escalates depending on the marketing push. 2) This doesn't account for the size of the "institution." Dartmouth has 5800 students (including grad!) annually, WashU has 13500! So on a per student basis Dartmouth is doubling washU.</p>

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<p>This thread was very interesting and useful :)</p>

<p>Regarding the waitlist arguments, this year WashU met its aimed class size fairly quickly, taking only a few off the “extraordinarily long” waitlist. Perhaps it was the economy that played a factor, good or bad. Before decisions were released, we predicted that most schools will have to go to their waitlists as more students decide to attend flagship state school A. So far this year, WashU has taken very few off its waitlist. Same goes for Hopkins and Cornell (if they even took any off). A few have gotten off at the top ivies, but nothing out of the ordinary. Perhaps our predictions of this admissions season were off and colleges stepped up their financial aid offers.<br>
Anyways, I didn’t know there were this many people interested in WashU, hahah, whether their reasons be good or bad, I don’t mind :)</p>

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<p>i think it’s high time we stop denigrating schools and just look to positives.</p>