<p>I thought I was alone, but yay! No, coming to school depressed me as I don't remember how many countless times I was taught how to make a works cited page (REALLY? I'm paying money for this course and we're wasting the entire lecture on stuff you should have learned in high school) or what NATO was (in International Affairs classes...yikes). I blame it on the fact my college is a notorious party school and because it made those "party school" rankings, the only people who wanted to apply were people more worried about how much they could drink before passing out rather than coming to class. This effect trickles down so then even the professors treat all undergrads like they can hardly dress/wash themselves, let alone understand a concept like..."collective action". </p>
<p>I leave you with the most insightful conversation I've thus far heard outside the physics building of my school:
Girl 1: OMG I've had 3 interventions!
Girl 2: AN intervention, whaaaaat?
Girl 1: Like they think i like drink too much
Girl 2: You like so don't drink too much
Girl 1: I know! I totally don't.
Girl 2: Like who was it?
Girl 1: Brittany and Megan
Girl 2: Ooooh, Brittany thinks she's like better than everyone since she got a boyfriend
Girl 1: Totally</p>
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I thought I was alone, but yay! No, coming to school depressed me as I don't remember how many countless times I was taught how to make a works cited page (REALLY? I'm paying money for this course and we're wasting the entire lecture on stuff you should have learned in high school)
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OMG! I know what you mean. I learned MLA citation in MIDDLE SCHOOL, and the teachers there told me high school teachers would expect us to already know it. Low and behold, I "relearned" parenthetical documentation EVERY SINGLE YEAR in high school. As if five times wasn't enough, everyone who goes to my college is expected to take Writing 1 and Writing 2, and GUESS WHAT? WE GET TO LEARN PARENTHETICAL DOCUMENTATION AGAIN!!!!!! MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Really, it's extremely frustrating. I'm not paying this money to get a recap of what I learned in middle school.</p>
<p>I'd be willing to bet that a few people are idiots and don't even know it but cover it up by calling themselves "intellectual". Those are the REAL idiots because they don't know as much as they think they do and they head into college with an undeserved air of superiority. It's always funny seeing them in class and contributing direct-from-text dialogue but no actual analysis.</p>
<p>To answer OP's question, I wouldn't say that BC is filled with idiots. I've come across a handful of students who would consider themselves "intellectual" but have no clue what common decencies are. It's mind-boggling but I can't knock them, because for the most part, it's their first time being pushed from under their parent's umbrella into social rain.</p>
<p>You know what I hate? When I meet someone who's paying over $200,000 to major in things like Philosophy, Art History, East Asian studies, and Lit (no grad school)....and they're so convinced that they alone are true "intellectuals" who are there in pursuit of academia, so full of themselves for being able to quote Dante and recite useless facts about Ancient Chinese civilization. God, those people make me so mad. Stop rubbing your "intellectual"ness in my face. I'm one step away from telling them that they have the easiest major and will be living in mommy's house till 30 paying off loans, because studying the Ancient Greeks for 4 years ain't gonna help you in the real world. </p>
<p>And I know, now some angry poster's going to say "Oh yeah well I know someone who got a B.A in Latin and now he's a billionaire!" but guess what, I don't care.</p>
<p>Yeah well, I go to NYU so there's plenty of hipsters around lol. </p>
<p>Like yeahhh...I'm gonna major in Philosophy because then I can "find myself" and be unique...the rest of you guys are like so driven by money...I'm gonna go smoke weed in Washington square and then ramble about Socrates...while my hard-working parents pay over $200,000 for me to go here...totally</p>
<p>uh yeah I'm taking a philosophy course and it's all BS. I got a 100 on the midterm and only paper, because it's all bull and I pull crap out of my hiney and make it up as I go along. No offense to anyone genuinally interested in philosophy because they want to go on to Law school, Medical school, or teaching.</p>
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You know what I hate? When I meet someone who's paying over $200,000 to major in things like Philosophy, Art History, East Asian studies, and Lit (no grad school)....and they're so convinced that they alone are true "intellectuals" who are there in pursuit of academia, so full of themselves for being able to quote Dante and recite useless facts about Ancient Chinese civilization. God, those people make me so mad. Stop rubbing your "intellectual"ness in my face. I'm one step away from telling them that they have the easiest major and will be living in mommy's house till 30 paying off loans, because studying the Ancient Greeks for 4 years ain't gonna help you in the real world. </p>
<p>And I know, now some angry poster's going to say "Oh yeah well I know someone who got a B.A in Latin and now he's a billionaire!" but guess what, I don't care.
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<p>And people who **** on the humanities and think that any undergrad degree other than engineering or a BSN is going to "help them in the real world" **** me off... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>And stargazer - you realize that you can find easy, non-intellectually stimulating classes in every department right? Don't think that because you took one easy intro philosophy course, the entire field is like that. If you actually can make things up (I'm guessing this isn't actually the case) then thats not much of a class, let alone a philosophy class.</p>
<p>Yep, I was waiting for an angry student to come by and rant. I'm not crapping on the humanities, I'm not Pre-med or an Engineer or even a Nurse. I'm making fun of people who major in those subjects AND then make fun of the rest of us for not being an "intellectual". Yes, I don't study Chaucer nightly, therefore I'm not an intellectual...make a lot of sense.</p>
<p>And yeah, my Philosphy class is easy, but NYU has one of the top Philosophy programs in the U.S, so there's a lot of those students here, and I'm tired of them rubbing their "intellectual" abilities in my face. I'm making fun of the arrogant ones, NOT the entire subject, so read my post next time instead of getting ticked off. </p>
<p>And yeah, I do make stuff up, because when I get a topic like "Analyze Socrates defense of justice in the Republic" I end up stringing together some quotes and bs'ing the rest of it.</p>
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I'm making fun of the arrogant ones, NOT the entire subject, so read my post next time instead of getting ticked off.
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<p>^ not how it came off dude - and again... something that can be said of every major. How many pre-meds do you know that don't think they are god's gift to the sciences? Again... point being, don't pick on one major for the faults of them all.</p>
<p>I don't care. My post was about what happened to annoy me, and what annoys me is artsy hipsters at NYU who think they're more "intellectual" because they're spending 4 years reading Shakespeare. If that makes you upset or whatever, I honestly don't care, I'm entitled to my feelings. Most pre-med students I know are highly intelligent people who work hard because they know they have years of schooling ahead of them. So stop being so offended like I created a post specifically making fun of you or something. It wasn't a personal attack and you're the only one acting uptight about it, it just makes you sound insecure. And I don't care how it came off 'dude'...read it correctly next time...kinda ironic I'm telling a philosophy major to re-read something, oh well</p>
<p>stargazerlilies sounds a little insecure...</p>
<p>Pre-meds think they're the <strong><em>. Liberal arts majors think they're the *</em></strong><em>. Engineers think they're the *</em>*. </p>
<p>It's common sense that the more you know about a subject, the more you'll grow to appreciate it. Thus, any student will see the complexities and depth of his or her own major while only seeing the beginner-level aesthetics of all the other majors. Thus, you equate English majors with spending four years reading Shakespeare, or philosophy majors with memorizing lines by rote, etc.</p>
<p>You call pre-med students "highly intelligent" because you have your own personal opinion of what qualifies as intelligence, and they happen to match. I assure you, it works both ways. So quit the whining and arrogance and just realize that different people go to college for different reasons. Not everyone's ultimate life-long goal is $$$.</p>
<p>I sound insecure? buddy, I'm not the one getting so offended over a post. You guys are acting like I said "All humanities majors are obnoxious and I hate them!" when what I said was more like "I hate pretentious artsy hipsters who think they're more intellectual than everyone else because of what they study." Now, unless you're some pretentious artsy elitist yourself, no reason to get all worked up.
I find it funny you're telling me to quit being whiny and arrogant when this whole thread is about people calling other people idiots. If I hated the humanities, would I be studying them? Obviously not. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go read some Aristotle and make up something to say about him that doesn't make me sound retarded.</p>
<p>I'm not offended. I'm not even a humanities major. -_-</p>
<p>The obvious implication of your post is that humanities majors are more likely to be pretentious. I could of course say, "I hate racists who vote for McCain." The natural, expected reply would be, "Just because I'm voting for McCain doesn't mean I'm racist!". Likewise, "I hate arty hipster philosophy majors" sounds just as inclusive as, "I hate dirty blacks". Have fun trying to explain, "No, I just hate blacks who are dirty..."</p>
<p>Either way, you're free to say whatever you want. Just realize the implications you're communicating.</p>
<p>yawn: they're not more pretentious, but the ones who are bother me more for some reason. Like I've met pretentious Engineering students, but they don't bother me at all, not when they brag about how they're smarter than everyone or that they're going to make more money. I just think, ok, another elitist engineer. It actually doesn't bother me. </p>
<p>But for some reason, in my philosophy class, when I talk to a pretentious student firmly convinced that he is a unique "intellectual", it just bothers me more. Maybe it's because I'm studying Liberal Arts myself and don't like to be associated with that type? I don't know why, really. And yeah, I consider any 18 yr old firmly convinced he's a "philospher" to be an idiot. That title should not be granted to a college freshman, and that's my honest opinion. Feel free to disagree. NYU is ranked very highly in Philosophy, so there's quite a few of them here.</p>
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<p>Wow. That sounds like me, except for that I only participate in class to make sure I comprehended the text correctly. I don't want to take the test and find out that I misinterpreted what was taught to me. I'm not creative either, so yeah... :/ </p>
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Yeah well, I go to NYU so there's plenty of hipsters around lol.
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<p>That must be really lame. I find the one hipster in my philosophy class annoying because he is such a pretentious snob who thinks he has this mysterious aura about him. You should see the way he leans against a light pole like he's James Dean.
There was a time when I decided to give him a chance and put my assumptions aside, but alas, he blows off mere mortals like you and I.</p>