Kelley yield for the last two years was around 32%-33%, so I would expect IU is using close to that number in their yield model.
You are playing a parlor game, but based on the last two years’ history, IU will likely offer around 7,500 students direct admission for their target class of 2,500. I expect most of those offers of admission have already been released (most via direct admit pathway not requiring a petition, the rest via petition), some more petitions might be granted between now and Apr 14.
There will be waitlist movement if the target class size isn’t around 2,500, and IU will likely wait until the May 1st enrollment deadline before making that decision. If the yield model is looking much lower than expected leading up to May 1, maybe they go to the waitlist sooner. However, waitlisted students should realistically plan on no waitlist movement.
I emailed them regarding the class size, it seems as if they are targeting around 2200-2300 class size, and also there is much greater amount of petitioners and DA’s this year(petioners from 3.5k to over 5k petitions this year and DA’s seems much higher since they added this waitlist process) because they got spots filled out already for the class it seems like
We will never have full information. All we can do is apply typical principles. If IU is targeting a smaller class this year, say 2,250, then expect around 750 fewer admitted students than each the previous two years, so in the neighborhood of 6,750 total admits.
The important take away is many factors point to IU probably not needing to go to the waitlist to fill this year’s Kelley class, but they did waitlist some students just to give themselves options if yield is lower than projected after the May 1 enrollment deadline. Does that make sense?
While we are speculating, what does that means for how many students they can accept for DA after 2 semesters? One out one in? Who is taking the chance and going to IU the plan to transfer in to Kelley?
Yes, we will probably consider it too if he doesn’t get into his top choice. It seems like with hard work, all B’s, it’s possible. My son had very high scores for this process, we just chose Indiana late and didn’t get the application in on time. I’m not concerned about him getting b’s. But if someone is concerned about maintaining a certain GPA, then this process might be difficult. I feel like if it’s a goal you want to set then you will make it happen. If a student can’t maintain a b average, then they probably shouldn’t be in Kelley honestly
I have a current direct admit freshman and will likely have another kid applying in 2 years. I think if your kid is used to a rigorous curriculum and is disciplined with studying, all B’s and above is very doable. My son went to a good (not great) parochial school and took a very rigorous schedule. He made quite a few B’s in AP classes. He has buckled down in college and should finish freshman year with just one B.
It’s also important to remember that it’s not just about the number of applicants (DA and Petition) that they ultimately take but also about the composition of the class that Kelley is building. That rubric is known only to Kelley, but you can be sure that they are trying to create a balanced class (as is the case with other programs and universities). So if you’re looking at a student’s “odds” of being admitted to Kelley, there’s likely more happening behind the scenes than their GPA and test scores.
IMHO (many will disagree), this is a “case study” for what can happen when holistic process and test optional models are implemented. You call it crazy. Some may call it unfair. I guess it is the price some of us have to pay.
If everyone is going anyway, earning Bs and trying to transfer in, we will be in the same boat we are in today. What “other” review criteria is there to break ties and determine the decision. We all know there isn’t room for everyone.
There’s a virtual session about the process where I might listen in to learn.
However my gut tells me he may be happier as a direct admit somewhere else.
Yes that maybe the case in the freshman direct admit but that kind of all goes to the wayside when students who in their 2nd semester meet the requirements for Kelley and apply and they get admitted. They don’t deny if you meet the requirements (male or female, SAT scores or not, etc).
We are from Illinois, and my daughter did not get direct entry into Gies (UIUC) but was offered her second choice major. Since she got DA into several other great programs (Kelley included), it was a pretty easy decision for her. She simply did not want the extra pressure of having to worry about whether she would be able to gain admission after freshman year, and I don’t blame her one bit.
I agree. We were in the same boat. My son never had difficulty maintaining B’s or higher. Mostly higher. Just some in here make it seem like the B’s are difficult achieve. Wasn’t sure if I was missing something.
hi everyone
i just got commited to iu though i did not received direct admit.
i would pursue stndard admission to kelley
the good thing is they have lowered down i core pre requisites to 6 from 8
they cancelled maths calculus and finite maths. though this two courses are to be completed during the first 2 sems, they won’t be considered for kelley application.