<p>Okay yourbf...whatever
"Back in medieval and even post renaissance times, women were not educated by mainstream society. however, religious oriented institutions (nunneries) educated women and trained them to contribute to society. Sexism is more of a product of men who do not respect women not christianity."
-Right, and it's a continue product becuase of its promotion by religon. thanks for strenthing my point.</p>
<p>"Homosexuality is wrong. its not natural and its a perversion of God's gift to mankind - sexual intercourse."
--lol, not even going to touch this one. who are you to say what's natural and who is this god to decide what's right or wrong. if god "said" (because he cant say anything) not being white was wrong, would you support his teachings?</p>
<p>"Classism - the church has always helped out the downtrodden and has done what it could to promote equality when no one else did. Its corrupt members of the church that cast this classist atmosphere.
--the catholic religion was formed on classism and power. if you missed my point where not all things about religion was wrong, go back and read it. i clearly stated that keeping people from doing evil was a pro of religion, but comparing religion to any single church is not right. overall, what i'm saying, religion is wrong</p>
<p>Back in medieval and even post renaissance times, women were not educated by mainstream society. however, religious oriented institutions (nunneries) educated women and trained them to contribute to society. Sexism is more of a product of men who do not respect women not christianity.</p>
<p>Yes, but only for the chruch's own agenda. They gave them just enough accssibility to knowledge to cary out the duties men wanted them to, but ensured to restrict them and not let women become "too" intelligent.</p>
<p>"No JyankeesSS2, god is only accountable for the good in the world. If you were rejected it would be your fault entirely; however, if you were accepted it would be all God's doing."</p>
<p>if i were accepted it would be gods doing... meaning that god is only responsible for the good and i get no credit... and then if i dont get in its my fault entirely, meaning im fully to blame... my statement is still valid</p>
<p>Mahras- try post #340. If that's not insulting religion I don't know what is. Besides most people are peaceful and understand the true meaning of religion. Don't let a bunch of muslim fundamentalists (maybe I shouldn't have said that...) skew your opinion of religon. </p>
<p>And take your atheism elsewhere, you heathen, no one wants it here :)</p>
<p>THIS thread is beyond obsolete...our argument is never going to convince anyone on the opposite side because they all require some element of faith. Like i posted beofe...to everyone his/her own belief. To you be your way and to me mine</p>
<p>evil came into existence out of free will. For those who believe in god: its because he valued love above all else to risk the outcomes of free will.</p>
<p>Sorry I really don't want to seem callous, but I really laughed at your statement crouton. I was being sarcastic. You can ask Jyankee or you can read the threads prior to that, which were all satirical in fashion.</p>
<p>Stargazed, most people don't understand the true meaning of religion if the true meaning is peace and being good. in our very country, we have millions of evangelicals who think anyone who is not like them is going to hell. (that's just one example, btw, there are many others)</p>
<p>mmkay - sexism is not promoted by religion. where are you getting that? sexism is promoted by a society that is being influenced by science more and more. also, god did not say that being white is wrong. but he specifically states that being homosexual is wrong. and i believe him on that. if you say that keeping people from doing evil is a pro of religion then you should support me because its trying to keep people from being homosexual which is wrong.</p>
<p>hoodhopper> Well when you find out "god" was behind the big bang give me a call. You see thats the difference between a belief and a fact. People need a crutch that easily explains the world to them. They can't live under uncertainty and it is simply not comforting. I suppose it is a nice coping mechanism.</p>
<p>I don't think any of the religions have said the universe came from the big bang. If "god" knew that already, why not reveal it instead of making up some story about 6 days of work and a 7th day of rest or what have you.</p>
<p>evil came into existence out of free will. For those who believe in god: its because he valued love above all else to risk the outcomes of free will.</p>
<p>Yes, but if god is almighty god can see all that will ever be. God would have foreseen the formation of evil and could have prented it, but chose not to.</p>
<p>yes maharas! some one with another one of my exact points! religion is a coping mechanism for the world. in the past and third-world countries, it was/is used for controlling nature. it still is used to try and control the "afterlife" or at least ease fears about many things. humanity fears the unknown. Humanity created religion to ease this fear.</p>