<p>Okay, the question I really want to know is:</p>
<p>WILL THESE SCHOOLS take SAT's and maybe One or Two SAT II's in my first year of college if I plan to transfer to these universities:</p>
<p>Brown
Cornell
Upenn
Duke
Columbia
Yale</p>
<p>My second question is, how would my chances be with stats such as:</p>
<p>2300+ SAT
3 800 SAT II's Relevant to my major
4.0 At a state school for 1 YEAR ONLY
Convincing Essays/ Distinct reasons to attend each university
3.0-3.2 HS GPA</p>
<p>I'll do anything to get into one of my dream schools, and would love advice to increase my chances. Please tell me where I would stand now...</p>
<p>I also wanna know if transferring is even worth attempting from people who have had experience. I have been busting my ass, and wanna make sure I get into at least two schools. If you think I'm a crapshoot at these then please let me know...I'm new to transferring.</p>
<p>It might be difficult to transfer after one year, but if you keep up these same stats and continue for 2 years, then Brown, Columbia, possible Duke/Upenn are good shots. As for Cornell, it would depend on which college you were applying to and with Yale, it might be a bit more difficult.</p>
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2300+ SAT
3 800 SAT II's Relevant to my major
4.0 At a state school for 1 YEAR ONLY
Convincing Essays/ Distinct reasons to attend each university
3.0-3.2 HS GPA
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Which of those are your actual stats and which are those you plan/hope to have? I can't really tell whether you have already finished a year in your state school or plan to go there.
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I ....wanna make sure I get into at least two schools. If you think I'm a crapshoot at these then please let me know...I'm new to transferring.
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If you look at the sticky thread on transfer acceptance rates, you will see that those schools are a slim chance for anybody. Anybody. If you are not happy at your current school and want to transfer, you need to apply to a range of schools for transfer. Including some with substantially higher acceptance rates than the primarily single digit ones of the schools you listed. Find schools which have the programs and attributes you like that are higher likelihoods. Apply to a reach or two if you like. But applying only to uber-reach schools has a high likelihood of disappointment.</p>
<p>Well I have a 2270 SAT right now and 750 + in two SAT II's that are not relevant to my major. I honestly didn't think I'd have to worry if I had stats like those, especially with a 4.0. I don't think I would be able to be more competitive than that...or could I?</p>
<p>All of the colleges on your list DO look at your HS record if you are applying as a sophomore, so your chances are probably nil. For top colleges, the chances of acceptance as a transfer are much lower than as a freshman. This year many top colleges accepted just a handfull of transfers students because many more accepted freshman said yes than the admissions offices has anticipated.</p>
<p>"All of the colleges on your list DO look at your HS record if you are applying as a sophomore."
It is! Trust me. Do some research. All the info is available on each college's website. And trust what Andale says: "If you look at the sticky thread on transfer acceptance rates, you will see that those schools are a slim chance for anybody. Anybody."</p>
<p>At top colleges the students that have the best chance of being accepted as a transfer student are those who had the stats to be accepted as a freshman, IN ADDITION to having a great GPA at their current college.</p>
<p>Like Andale, I am unclear on your exact situation. From your previous posts, I can't tell -- are you an incoming senior in high school or just starting your first year at a state uni?</p>
<p>You keep throwing around 4.0, that's a silly expectation to put on yourself. Obviously you want to keep your grades as high as possible, but it's a given that the average applicant is going to have the good grades, good essays, "compelling" reason to be there. Someone else with a slightly lower GPA may come from a notoriously difficult school, have a more rigorous courseload, interesting background, whatever, and get in over that 4.0 from the state uni. It is hard to say. Many of your dream schools don't play the numbers game with transfer admissions because there are simply too many talented applicants. </p>
<p>Instead of focusing all that energy on a 4.0, maybe think about the things that would distinguish yourself from the average applicant, and think about ways to really make sure those are clear to the adcoms. </p>
<p>If you are still at least a year off from application, it's difficult to say what changes might be made between then and now. We've already seen significant changes to transfer admissions with certain schools in the past few years.</p>
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I don't think I would be able to be more competitive than that...or could I?
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If it were all about the numbers, then no, you couldn't be "more competitive than that." However, it is documented at schools such as those on your list that the freshman admit rate for those with perfect SAT scores is about 50%. Half get in; half don't. That is a much higher admit rate than those with "imperfect" scores, but it is still equivalent in likelihood to the flip of a coin.</p>
<p>Proving that it is not all about the numbers. </p>
<p>You have received good advice in this thread. And accurate information. Your high school record will be a factor at most selective schools. All you need to do to verify that is to check each website. They are very specific as to what they consider for transfer admissions.</p>
<p>I think it's worth applying to those schools. You have very similar numbers to myself, but I came from a community college and transferred after two years. You can view my stats profile if you'd like to see how I did. I would imagine, as you are coming from a state school, that if you are capable of REALLY pulling off a 4.0 and you plan on transferring after only one year, it'll be worth applying. More than likely, you'll be rejected and end up applying after two years, but will probably find more success then.</p>
<p>Thanks! It was my first choice. I didn't get into NYU CAS though. I still want to go to New York eventually so hopefully I can get into NYU or Columbia for law.</p>