Ivy Does Not Guarantee Anything

<p>Too many people go to Ivy just for prestige, but seriously, most people who go to Ivies are not Bill Gates. When i say that i mean Ivy doesn't guarantee success.</p>

<pre><code> People counter this by saying i want to go there for Higher Education, but there are more rich normal people that rich geniuses. In truth, There are better and easier, and more enjoyable ways to become rich than be a genius.
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<p>Discuss</p>

<p>Funny thing is i still want to go to an ivy. :D</p>

<p>I'm in an Ivy and I don't feel any more special than a non-Ivy student. Only difference is I'm under a lot more stress.</p>

<p>People like you make the world easier for ivy hopefuls, especially if you're a good student.</p>

<p>no one said Ivy Guarantee success</p>

<p>only ignorant ppl think that the ivy name guarantees anything</p>

<p>Who said people at Ivies work harder? In fact, barring Cornell and Princeton, there is MASSIVE grade inflation at the Ivies. Classes at Harvard and Columbia that I know of are almost always curved up to a B/B+.</p>

<p>Attending an ivy league may not ensure success... but it sure as heck give you a leg up. And also, being ACCEPTED into an Ivy League school basically let's you know you have what it takes to succeed-- at that point, it's all about nurturing that talent. </p>

<p>""There is no question my Ivy League education opened more doors than would have been opened with the same credentials from a non-Ivy League school," says Menack, who worked for a prestigious New York law firm before going into private practice as a mediator. "I got my first job after reminiscing with the hiring partner about the American Presidency course at Harvard."</p>

<p>Another bonus the Ivy League offers is stimulating interaction among some of the world's top professors and students. "Everyone you interact with is of a high-functioning caliber, so you are constantly challenged to be your best," Menack adds. (Though sometimes the competition gets cutthroat. Menack recalls a student at Columbia who went so far as to rip pages out of his classmates' textbooks.)</p>

<p>"There is an aura about an Ivy League education that gives you instant credibility," says Kathleen L'Esperance, who got her bachelor's degree from Michigan State before earning her MBA at Columbia. L'Esperance went back to school at the urging of her former boss at JP Morgan Chase. She candidly admits that while it was a wonderful experience, she doesn't think getting the Ivy League degree improved her performance -- but it did raise people's perception of her performance!</p>

<p>Jay Matthews, Harvard grad, alumnus recruiter and author of Harvard Schmarvard: Getting Beyond the Ivy League to the College That is Best for You, speculates in his book that graduates of the Ivy League generally do well not so much because of the school they attended, but because of the character, talent, intelligence and drive that got them accepted to the school in the first place.</p>

<p>Yet while the value of an Ivy League degree can be debated, just about everyone will agree that given the connections students make and the number of recruiters attracted to their campuses, these schools give their students an advantage early in their careers. In the long run, however, a person's experience, performance and ability to relate to others matter far more than the seal on their diploma."</p>

<p>yes, ivies are a great experience, yes they CAN open doors, but i'm trying to tell people not to go to ivies for no reason but prestige and guarantee of success.</p>